walksalone Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. People are out of touch when it comes to crick. 76 tackles and 7 sacks.....suhs numbers as a jr. cricks stats are better numbers than jason peter ever put up. crick was performing at an elite level....unless he tested out really really bad he is a 1st or 2nd rounder Just seeing that, makes me really hope he stays... Quote Link to comment
melscott62 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. People are out of touch when it comes to crick. 76 tackles and 7 sacks.....suhs numbers as a jr. cricks stats are better numbers than jason peter ever put up. crick was performing at an elite level....unless he tested out really really bad he is a 1st or 2nd rounder Just seeing that, makes me really hope he stays... and for being sophomores baker and meredith had decent years... people forget how young they are. our line could be nasty next year Quote Link to comment
mnhusker Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 No special inste but I bet he stays. Quote Link to comment
iowahusker09 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. Well these "quiet" stats, 32 tackles, 6 sacks, 15.5 TFL, two pass breakups, and one fumble recovery were loud enough to get 63 million over five years and the third pick in the draft. Gerald McCoy put those numbers up in the same defensive system of taking up blockers to free up LBs. guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats Quote Link to comment
mmmtodd Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 id be surprised if he went lower than the second round. he's getting quite a bit of buzz coming off the big 12 title game and even more from the general belief he can play and succeed in a 4-3 or a 3-4. on top of that, he has the size those guys drool over. i think husker fans, and maybe the general public, have suh goggles still on. crick is a force and quietly had a very impressive, consistent year. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats Meh. Harrell is a horrible comparator. The NFL screws up on talent evals all the time. Ryan Leaf gets drafted #2 overall and has a truly horrific career. Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent who couldn't get a shot at a starting job. Harrell would be a fine NFL quarterback. Don't underestimate the obstinance of NFL groupthink. Quote Link to comment
iowahusker09 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats Meh. Harrell is a horrible comparator. The NFL screws up on talent evals all the time. Ryan Leaf gets drafted #2 overall and has a truly horrific career. Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent who couldn't get a shot at a starting job. Harrell would be a fine NFL quarterback. Don't underestimate the obstinance of NFL groupthink. Yeah your exactly right but that wasn't my point. I was just trying to say that you cant project where he will drafted solely based on stats which is what seemed to be the argument before Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I was just trying to say that you cant project where he will drafted solely based on stats which is what seemed to be the argument before I will definitely agree with that. Quote Link to comment
iowahusker09 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats Meh. Harrell is a horrible comparator. The NFL screws up on talent evals all the time. Ryan Leaf gets drafted #2 overall and has a truly horrific career. Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent who couldn't get a shot at a starting job. Harrell would be a fine NFL quarterback. Don't underestimate the obstinance of NFL groupthink. Yeah your exactly right but that wasn't my point. I was just trying to say that you cant project where he will drafted solely based on stats which is what seemed to be the argument before Quote Link to comment
GMoose Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats Meh. Harrell is a horrible comparator. The NFL screws up on talent evals all the time. Ryan Leaf gets drafted #2 overall and has a truly horrific career. Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent who couldn't get a shot at a starting job. Harrell would be a fine NFL quarterback. Don't underestimate the obstinance of NFL groupthink. Yeah your exactly right but that wasn't my point. I was just trying to say that you cant project where he will drafted solely based on stats which is what seemed to be the argument before Actually, stats, namely on defense, can be highly redeeming factors for players. Brandon Spikes from UF and Lavonte David. Spikes was slow ans had poor time measurables, but got drafted high and is even a starter for the Pats now because he's got a nose for the ball, just a natural instinct for playing his position. Same with Lavonte; he's not nearly ideal size for any sort of LB but he'll get his shot because his production is through the roof. Quote Link to comment
melscott62 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. Well these "quiet" stats, 32 tackles, 6 sacks, 15.5 TFL, two pass breakups, and one fumble recovery were loud enough to get 63 million over five years and the third pick in the draft. Gerald McCoy put those numbers up in the same defensive system of taking up blockers to free up LBs. guys guys breaking down how players will translate to the next level doesn't have that much to do with production especially on defense. its all about judging your potential based a combination of height/weight/40 time etc etc. Im not saying performance on the field doesnt count, clearly it does, but look at someone like graham harrell from texas tech. threw for 8 million yards over his career and nobody has heard of him since. Just dont get too hung up on stats apples and oranges. harrel was all the system. stats are about the best way for the casual fan to gauge the production of a defensive tackle. Quote Link to comment
Blackshirtsguru Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Great point! I seem to recall years ago when "the know it alls" kept saying that a 5'11 232lb guy who went by the name of Jessie Tuggle, was too small to play linebacker. 5 pro bowls later, I'd say he did just fine! Quote Link to comment
74Hunter Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He had such a quiet season. So many of the questions like "can he do it without Suh at his side?" went unanswered. 70 tackles, 17 TFLs, 9.5 sacks. Very solid season - but when you look at the fact that David had 152 tackles and Gomes had 99 it makes you realize how many runners were getting past the line of scrimage. People are out of touch when it comes to crick. 76 tackles and 7 sacks.....suhs numbers as a jr. cricks stats are better numbers than jason peter ever put up. crick was performing at an elite level....unless he tested out really really bad he is a 1st or 2nd rounder This. He had an exceptional season. He maybe 2nd or 3rd round, or he may still be a 1st rounder. Lets just hope he comes back! Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Crick's biggest fault is he didn't turn into Suh 2.0 like people expected. He's Jared Crick, not Suh. And he's doing just fine. Quote Link to comment
BlackshirtDomination Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 He'd be crazy to leave with the Lockout. The Line should be better next year, assuming our players stop drinking and driving, and so should his numbers! Quote Link to comment
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