walksalone Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I was offended by Herby's comment comparing Fairley to Suh. Dude, no worries, it's Herbstreit It's about on the same level if Mark May's dumb ass said something... Quote Link to comment
HuskerJosh Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 If Auburn can get Fairley into school, how the hell do we have so much trouble getting Braylon into school? Did you hear that interview after the game? Quote Link to comment
T_O_Bull Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 On 'Around the Horn' yesterday both Woody Paige and Jackie MacMullen adressed this question and both agreed that SUH was far better than Fairly. MacMullan said 'Fairly is good but SUH is special.' 'SUH should be the Rookie of the Year not just the Defensive Rookie of the Year. He will be a preenial Pro Bowl player.' T_O_B :throwdabones1: Quote Link to comment
HuskerNLimbo Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 If Auburn can get Fairley into school, how the hell do we have so much trouble getting Braylon into school? Did you hear that interview after the game? The only difference between Suh and Fairly is Suh's ability to speak English. Otherwise, same level. Quote Link to comment
BeachBuffs Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ya'll stressed too much over the comparison, if anything you all should be flattered. When a player comes out with the talent of a Suh then why would other great defensive linemen that are coming out of college not get compared? Nick Fairley is a handful on the field and gives a little extra, I am a huge Denver Broncos fan and would love to see him in a Denver uniform next season, that horrible defense could use someone that gives a little extra. Nick is a good kid, I have been on the sideline with him twice now when he was in highschool at Williamson High in Mobile, Al. He was very respectful and gracious but played and competed superhard. Give me someone like him that goes the extra mile every play over an Albert Haynesworth who is notorious about taking plays off. Quote Link to comment
bleedNUred Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I like everything but the dirty cheapshot plays he does. And I too wouldn't mind seeing him in a Denver uniform Quote Link to comment
HuskerLover23 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The talking heads are pumping Fairly up just for something to talk about. His stats are pretty close to Suh's. But I don't think he dominates the games like Suh did. And I don't recall Fairley chasing down WRs from behind. Plus, the 52 solos tackles by Suh is an absolutely freaking unreal number for a DT getting double-teamed all year. Fairley stats 11.5 sacks 60 tackles (36 solo) 24 TFL (106 yds) 24 QB hurries 2 forced fumbles 1 interception Suh stats 12.0 sacks 85 tackles (52 solo) 20.5 TFL (93 yds) 19 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 1 interception Nuance, now I know how tempting it was to compare the stats from Suh's senior year compared to Fairley's junior years stats like you did, but lets try again. Fairley stats 11.5 sacks 60 tackles (36 solo) 24 TFL (106 yds) 21 QB hurries 2 forced fumbles 1 interception Suh stats 7.5 sacks 76 tackles (39 solo) 16 TFL (85 yds) 6 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 2 interception So with exception to tackles and solo tackles, which Suh barely edged out Fairley for solo tackles, Fairley's has far more impressive stats his junior year. And as another member mentioned, your team designed your defense around Suh so of course his numbers should be higher, although they aren't. Also take into consideration that Fairley played against much tougher opponents all year long in the SEC. You all can speculate all you want but the numbers don't lie. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 So with exception to tackles and solo tackles, which Suh barely edged out Fairley for solo tackles, Fairley's has far more impressive stats his junior year. And as another member mentioned, your team designed your defense around Suh so of course his numbers should be higher, although they aren't. Also take into consideration that Fairley played against much tougher opponents all year long in the SEC. You all can speculate all you want but the numbers don't lie. Since we're picking nits now, let me ask you - in his Junior year, how long had Fairley been in that system? In Suh's Junior year, how long had he been in that system? Consistency is a nice luxury. One Suh didn't have, but Fairley did. Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The weren't comparing Fairley this year to Suh as a junior - they were comparing him to Suh last year...in which case Suh wins hands down. A large portion of his praise is coming from the NC game. Suh was talked about that way for an entire season. Fairley perhaps could have been better than Suh - had he stayed, but he didn't so now we'll never know. Then again, had the Texas game been the MNC game we wouldn't be having this convo - because Suh's performance would have gone down in history and never been challenged. ...and numbers frequently lie - Nebraska has the 35th ranked offense - which is within 25 YPG of teams like Alabama, USC, Michigan St, Vigrinia Tech and Missouri. Did we look like our offense was comparable to Alabama's this year? NUMBERS.........lie. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The talking heads are pumping Fairly up just for something to talk about. His stats are pretty close to Suh's. But I don't think he dominates the games like Suh did. And I don't recall Fairley chasing down WRs from behind. Plus, the 52 solos tackles by Suh is an absolutely freaking unreal number for a DT getting double-teamed all year. Fairley stats 11.5 sacks 60 tackles (36 solo) 24 TFL (106 yds) 24 QB hurries 2 forced fumbles 1 interception Suh stats 12.0 sacks 85 tackles (52 solo) 20.5 TFL (93 yds) 19 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 1 interception Nuance, now I know how tempting it was to compare the stats from Suh's senior year compared to Fairley's junior years stats like you did, but lets try again. Fairley stats 11.5 sacks 60 tackles (36 solo) 24 TFL (106 yds) 21 QB hurries 2 forced fumbles 1 interception Suh stats 7.5 sacks 76 tackles (39 solo) 16 TFL (85 yds) 6 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 2 interception So with exception to tackles and solo tackles, which Suh barely edged out Fairley for solo tackles, Fairley's has far more impressive stats his junior year. And as another member mentioned, your team designed your defense around Suh so of course his numbers should be higher, although they aren't. Also take into consideration that Fairley played against much tougher opponents all year long in the SEC. You all can speculate all you want but the numbers don't lie. If you're going to play this game, you might as well compare Fairley's freshman stats to Suh's junior stats because everyone knows that Suh got absolutely zero coaching until he was a junior putting him on the same playing field as Fairley as a freshman. Quote Link to comment
kchusker_chris Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Nuance, now I know how tempting it was to compare the stats from Suh's senior year compared to Fairley's junior years stats like you did, but lets try again. Fairley stats 11.5 sacks 60 tackles (36 solo) 24 TFL (106 yds) 21 QB hurries 2 forced fumbles 1 interception Suh stats 7.5 sacks 76 tackles (39 solo) 16 TFL (85 yds) 6 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 2 interception So with exception to tackles and solo tackles, which Suh barely edged out Fairley for solo tackles, Fairley's has far more impressive stats his junior year. And as another member mentioned, your team designed your defense around Suh so of course his numbers should be higher, although they aren't. Also take into consideration that Fairley played against much tougher opponents all year long in the SEC. You all can speculate all you want but the numbers don't lie. http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/1/11/1928305/fairleys-stats-lie-in-bcs-championship-game While we're comparing juniors...(Crick is on pace to easily top Fairley next year) Crick stats 9.5 sacks 70 tackles (36 solo) 17 TFL (92 yds) 10 QB hurries 1 forced fumble 0 interception And while we are looking at numbers, since Suh had a VERY dominant 2 year run - what does Fairley's prior season look like? Maybe stats don't lie in this case. The better DT? SUH Fairley 2009 stats 1.5 sacks 28 tackles (14 solo) 3.5 TFL (20 yds) 7 QB hurries 0 forced fumbles 0 interceptions Fairley = 1 hit wonder. Quote Link to comment
BornRedCornFed Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 considering that no one heard of this guy before the championship game makes this an invalid argument. (minus the dirty play, that is) not even taking into consideration something called a heisman nomination.... Quote Link to comment
jsneb83 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Fairley is a good player, but Suh got his stats with offenses gameplanning against him by double and sometimes even triple teaming him. Watching the MNC, it looked like Oregon was manning up on him, and their were even times when he wasn't even blocked. I don't know how good he is against a double team, but I would rather have Suh on my team, I know Detroit isn't complaining. Quote Link to comment
bshirt Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 delete....wrong "Farley".....whoops! Quote Link to comment
UM-HUSKER Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Why are we comparing a dead guy to Suh? Didn't Fairley overdose a couple of years ago? Quote Link to comment
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