knapplc Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? You're White? Quote Link to comment
bigg10 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? You're White? So am I and if I win the lotto, I am going to buy a team and name it whitebreadhonkycrackertrailertrash, just to prove my point. Quote Link to comment
CO_hawk Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 I'd been looking for this for awhile so I'll just post it here. (Maybe it's been posted on the forum before, I just don't feel like looking). I just wonder how much size is a factor in how crappy the student section is. I don't know much about the various student sections. Are most student sections relegated to the crappy areas of stadiums? Anyway, here are the sizes of some student sections (in 2008) Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/bcsconstellation aTm: 29,736 Ohio State: 29,675 Penn State: 21,456 Michigan: 21,240 Texas: 18,829 Baylor: 15,000 Purdue: 15,000 Michigan State: 14,250 Wisconsin: 13,654 Oklahoma St.: 12,000 TTech: 11,830 Colorado: 11,825 Iowa: 10,587 Illinois: 10,274 Minnesota: 10,267 Kansas: 10,014 Kansas State: 9,000 Missouri: 8,960 Oklahoma: 8,211 Nebraska: 8,106 Northwestern: 7,880 Iowa State: 7,700 Indiana: 4,922 Obviously student body size is a factor too. Nebraska isn't a gigantic school like some of those. (Penn State has 44,000 students who attend their main campus). Same thing with Wisconsin. On the other hand, there are more fanatic Nebraska fans, I'm assuming. Student tickets sold out in 10 days or so this year. I really doubt it would be a problem to sell out the tickets to a larger number of students. Good post. Are these averages or just the amount allotted? Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Good post. Are these averages or just the amount allotted? I think it's the amount allotted, but I'm not sure. The site shows stadium capacity and the % that comprises of the student section. So I did the math on all of them. Texas A&M was 36% student section, Nebraska and Oklahoma were 10% student section. Quote Link to comment
hosker Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 \ Good post. Are these averages or just the amount allotted? It must be the amount allotted, because there is no way that Baylor has an average of 15K students throughout the year. . . . Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? You're White? So am I and if I win the lotto, I am going to buy a team and name it whitebreadhonkycrackertrailertrash, just to prove my point. Or you could just buy Dallas, and you wouldn't have to change the name. Quote Link to comment
Coqui Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I'd been looking for this for awhile so I'll just post it here. (Maybe it's been posted on the forum before, I just don't feel like looking). I just wonder how much size is a factor in how crappy the student section is. I don't know much about the various student sections. Are most student sections relegated to the crappy areas of stadiums? Anyway, here are the sizes of some student sections (in 2008) Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/bcsconstellation aTm: 29,736 Ohio State: 29,675 Penn State: 21,456 Michigan: 21,240 Texas: 18,829 Baylor: 15,000 Purdue: 15,000 Michigan State: 14,250 Wisconsin: 13,654 Oklahoma St.: 12,000 TTech: 11,830 Colorado: 11,825 Iowa: 10,587 Illinois: 10,274 Minnesota: 10,267 Kansas: 10,014 Kansas State: 9,000 Missouri: 8,960 Oklahoma: 8,211 Nebraska: 8,106 Northwestern: 7,880 Iowa State: 7,700 Indiana: 4,922 Obviously student body size is a factor too. Nebraska isn't a gigantic school like some of those. (Penn State has 44,000 students who attend their main campus). Same thing with Wisconsin. On the other hand, there are more fanatic Nebraska fans, I'm assuming. Student tickets sold out in 10 days or so this year. I really doubt it would be a problem to sell out the tickets to a larger number of students. Good post. Are these averages or just the amount allotted? Allotted, because with over 55,000 undergrad students, Ohio State would have more if they could. Quote Link to comment
macspartan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I really wish they would bring back chief Illiniwek, that was pretty cool. Wisconsin and Penn st. student sections are definitely the best tons more on them if any cares to see more. Yes he was pretty good. I also think OH marching band, spelling it out is pretty impressive. I never understood why Native americans would take offense to having their culture, or what ever, being brought front and center. It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? Ive never faced palmed or sprayed Ice in a goalies face but yet Hercules consider you face palmed and sprayed. The Illinois Chief was nothing but a proud warrior. Not sure of your Big Ten School affiliation, but I consider you one of the dumbest. Your trying to hide an Ace card when ya got a duece. Quote Link to comment
Hercules Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I really wish they would bring back chief Illiniwek, that was pretty cool. Wisconsin and Penn st. student sections are definitely the best tons more on them if any cares to see more. Yes he was pretty good. I also think OH marching band, spelling it out is pretty impressive. I never understood why Native americans would take offense to having their culture, or what ever, being brought front and center. It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? Ive never faced palmed or sprayed Ice in a goalies face but yet Hercules consider you face palmed and sprayed. The Illinois Chief was nothing but a proud warrior. Not sure of your Big Ten School affiliation, but I consider you one of the dumbest. Your trying to hide an Ace card when ya got a duece. Chief Illiniwek wasn't a warrior, it was a student in a costume performing an inauthentic dance, ripping off the culture of a people (who were run off of their native land or killed off), all for the purpose of entertaining the descendants of the people who ran the Illiniwek Confederacy off their land or killed them off. Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I really wish they would bring back chief Illiniwek, that was pretty cool. Wisconsin and Penn st. student sections are definitely the best tons more on them if any cares to see more. Yes he was pretty good. I also think OH marching band, spelling it out is pretty impressive. I never understood why Native americans would take offense to having their culture, or what ever, being brought front and center. It's not their culture. It's a caricature, it's modern day black-face minstrelsy. I mean, we (as in white people) systematically wiped them (Native Americans) off the face of the continent over the course of a century that makes the holocaust look like playtime, and you're wondering why Native Americans might take offense when we think it's cool to name our sports teams stuff like the "Redskins?" Why not have a team called the "Fightin' Field Hands" with a black mascot who has giant pink lips and just goes around eating watermelons? Ive never faced palmed or sprayed Ice in a goalies face but yet Hercules consider you face palmed and sprayed. The Illinois Chief was nothing but a proud warrior. Not sure of your Big Ten School affiliation, but I consider you one of the dumbest. Your trying to hide an Ace card when ya got a duece. Chief Illiniwek wasn't a warrior, it was a student in a costume performing an inauthentic dance, ripping off the culture of a people (who were run off of their native land or killed off), all for the purpose of entertaining the descendants of the people who ran the Illiniwek Confederacy off their land or killed them off. agreed Hercules. Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 and also, why the hell should i care about other teams stadium chants? im a husker fan, not an iowa fan. Quote Link to comment
CO_hawk Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 and also, why the hell should i care about other teams stadium chants? im a husker fan, not an iowa fan. Then don't watch them. Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 and also, why the hell should i care about other teams stadium chants? im a husker fan, not an iowa fan. Then don't watch them. im not. seems kinda stupid to me. the only team i need to know that much about is the team i follow, the teams we play are just the victims and i dont need or want to know what songs their students sing. Quote Link to comment
huskerfan333157 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 and also, why the hell should i care about other teams stadium chants? im a husker fan, not an iowa fan. Then don't watch them. im not. seems kinda stupid to me. the only team i need to know that much about is the team i follow, the teams we play are just the victims and i dont need or want to know what songs their students sing. It could give us some ideas though. When it comes to intimidation, stadium noise and chants then we kinda suck st that Quote Link to comment
husker B-rent Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 and also, why the hell should i care about other teams stadium chants? im a husker fan, not an iowa fan. Then don't watch them. im not. seems kinda stupid to me. the only team i need to know that much about is the team i follow, the teams we play are just the victims and i dont need or want to know what songs their students sing. It could give us some ideas though. When it comes to intimidation, stadium noise and chants then we kinda suck st that no need to copy other schools traditions, we have our own. Quote Link to comment
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