Not a TM Bashing

[It'sNotAFakeID]

I don't know what people are expecting out of a guy who's only played quarterback for 4 years.

[Joe_5700]

Lord's numbers, quite the running back... He didn't start until he was a Junior so his Junior/Senior numbers are here. For all of the talk about how bad Taylor's throwing motion is, he is much better at completing passes than past QBs. I don't think most of us remember how truly awful the QBs used to be at passing.

 

Also do not forget the superior lines that they also enjoyed as well. I think the numbers would look far worse if you gave our starting 5 to Crouch or Frazier.

[Stickney]

The OP's point is very Relevant. Essentially, in maturing as a game manager T-Mart has become less explosive.

 

 

The questions as I see them:

 

- are the defenses dictating that?

- is Beck able to solve that?

- has T-Mart lost a step?

- can he be both a game manager and explosive?

 

 

I honestly don't know. BUT, what it does mean, from my view, is that the QB competition will likely be far more open than one would expect with a 2 year starter returning for his JR season.

[FrankWheeler]

Also do not forget the superior lines that they also enjoyed as well. I think the numbers would look far worse if you gave our starting 5 to Crouch or Frazier.

 

 

 

Agreed, the coaching staff has asked a lot out of Taylor this year. The offense has been based entirely on Burkhead and Martinez, nobody else even has 30 carries/catches.

[kchusker_chris]

I honestly don't know. BUT, what it does mean, from my view, is that the QB competition will likely be far more open than one would expect with a 2 year starter returning for his JR season.

I can't see this. If TM continues down the path he's been on since Wisconsin he's solidly our starter next year.

[Blood Eagle]

He is a freaking Sophomore. I don't care who you are 99% of all sophomores are still developing. Look at all of the other "greatest qb in college history".

[NUance]

The numbers Martinez has put as a frosh/soph are simply amazing. Just imagine what he would do next year if he had a solid offensive line and WRs that could catch the ball.

[Stickney]

The receivers are culpable in dropped balls.

 

 

But T-Mart is like Nuke LaLoosh out there before garters, breathing through his eyelids, abstinence, and Crash Davis.

[kchusker_chris]

He is a freaking Sophomore. I don't care who you are 99% of all sophomores are still developing. Look at all of the other "greatest qb in college history".

was going to call you out on the Tim Tebow thing - since he won the Heisman as a sophomore...but looks like you edited.

 

The sophomore thing gets old by the way...he's still developing but there are plenty of young QBs that are very successfull in CFB. See k-state 2011.

[knapplc]

The receivers are culpable in dropped balls.

 

 

But T-Mart is like Nuke LaLoosh out there before garters, breathing through his eyelids, abstinence, and Crash Davis.

 

 

Simple fix. Hit the mascot.

 

[FrankWheeler]

The sophomore thing gets old by the way...he's still developing but there are plenty of young QBs that are very successfull in CFB. See k-state 2011.

 

Gets old until he is a Junior....K-State's QB is a Junior.

[knapplc]

The sophomore thing gets old by the way...he's still developing but there are plenty of young QBs that are very successfull in CFB. See k-state 2011.

 

Not as old as the trazillion threads calling for Martinez to be benched every other week.

[Stickney]

"Only a Sophomore"

 

 

Go look at total starts by a QB, a better stat, and I think you will see T-Mart (a redshirt sophomore) has as many starts as many juniors and probably lots of seniors.

 

 

Leave the class out of it.

 

 

He started very, very raw. He's matured, no doubt. But, frankly, he remains still pretty raw. Time will tell how far he can progress and whether anyone will overtake him.

[kchusker_chris]

The sophomore thing gets old by the way...he's still developing but there are plenty of young QBs that are very successfull in CFB. See k-state 2011.

 

Gets old until he is a Junior....K-State's QB is a Junior.

who played 2009 as a WR or on special teams. sound familiar? and in 2010 he started a few games -playing sparing. Taylor has an extra year of starts at QB. in terms of his development...Taylors got a larger resume under center,

[knapplc]

He started very, very raw. He's matured, no doubt. But, frankly, he remains still pretty raw. Time will tell how far he can progress and whether anyone will overtake him.

 

Word. Yeah that. Ditto. Or whatever the kids are saying these days.