GOP Senators block tax cuts for insourcing businesses

[carlfense]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/19/politics/senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked/index.html

Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked the No.1 item on the president's congressional "to-do-list," refusing to allow a vote on a bill that would give tax breaks for companies that "insource" jobs to the U.S. from overseas while eliminating tax deductions for companies that move jobs abroad.

[JJ Husker]

The straw......You know what, I no longer identify with the republican party. I realize neither side is going to allow the other to have any sort of "victory" bill to campaign with. I am sure that is what this is all about. Our political system is beyond fing broke. These jackoffs are way too concerned about being elected to their cushy positions to do one friggin thing that would help the American people. How in the hell can anyone be opposed to tax breaks to re-shore jobs and to eliminate tax breaks for outsourcing? There is nobody representing us in DC. F'n nobody!

 

I'm still fairly conservative but I am no longer a republican. In my mind, that is no longer better than being a dem. They both/all suck.

[carlfense]

I've been saying if for months: the Republican party's chances improve in November if they block all legislation that would help the economy. It makes me very uncomfortable any time either party has an incentive to do harm to the country.

[Husker_x]

It's all politics but at this point it smacks of bitterness.

 

It's hard to empathize with the democrats, however. They had crushing majorities in both chambers and the presidency, and what do we have to show for it? A sort of okay-crappy healthcare law? It also doesn't help when the president set the bipartisan tone early on by telling republicans, "We won."

[sd'sker]

the problem is that to the people, politics are sport. votes are points. parties have victories, not the people. the other problem is that elected officials do not represent they electorate, they represent those who got them elected: the donors.

[Moiraine]

the donors.

 

And those donors don't care where the jobs are. Big business is international

 

 

 

I'm curious, when does Ben Nelson vote with the Democrats?

[Yossarian]

the donors.

 

And those donors don't care where the jobs are. Big business is international

 

 

 

I'm curious, when does Ben Nelson vote with the Democrats?

 

When his vote helps prolong a recession.

[Yossarian]

I too am troubled when a party has incentives to do harm to the country. I can think of several trillion examples.

[Mavric]

The US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and the Business Roundtable were also opposed to the bill. Obviously they're against US jobs as well.

[Moiraine]

The US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and the Business Roundtable were also opposed to the bill. Obviously they're against US jobs as well.

 

I'd like to know if the bolded part is sarcasm before I respond.

[Hayseed]

I've been saying if for months: the Republican party's chances improve in November if they block all legislation that would help the economy. It makes me very uncomfortable any time either party has an incentive to do harm to the country.

The Democrats had control of the Congress for two years and did none of this. Now in the last six months before the election they're full of conservative ideas...well, ideas that last until after the election that is. The Democrat's socialist schemes will go nowhere, they've lost any trust they ever had. I've noticed that most of your threads are the same theme despite your pleas for fairness.....I won't engage in any arguments with you but thought the timing of Obama's deep concern about everything needed to be pointed out.

[Moiraine]

They're full of conservative ideas

Mind elaborating?

[Hayseed]

They're full of conservative ideas

Mind elaborating?

 

After being silent for years they send out people like Bill Clinton to give his brilliant advice ,then lo and behold, Obama is concerned about the 12 year old Bush tax rates expiring. Of course it's just a trick with the temporary extension for one year before we all get hit if he's re-elected. There are other temporary loosening of regs going on for his media to focus on in hopes that they can fool enough dummies into thinking he's moderating....of course he really won't but they like pretending before every election.

[Mavric]

The US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and the Business Roundtable were also opposed to the bill. Obviously they're against US jobs as well.

 

I'd like to know if the bolded part is sarcasm before I respond.

[Moiraine]

The US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers and the Business Roundtable were also opposed to the bill. Obviously they're against US jobs as well.

I'd like to know if the bolded part is sarcasm before I respond.

Alright. Now I'll say that I don't think your point is a good one. All of those organizations have execs from huge, worldwide businesses on their boards. When your goal is to make money and you're a global company, creating jobs in the U.S. doesn't necessarily matter. I looked at the websites to see the members of the exec committees and boards and they're filled with these huge companies. I picked these examples because I'd heard of them, but there's also one at the bottom that I hadn't heard of, NACCO, that makes their forklifts in Brazil. I'm too lazy to go through every board member's company to see if they outsource, but I'm guessing a large number do. The US Chamber of Commerce site makes it more annoying to look up the board member affiliations so I didn't bother with that one. I only know that there's a Wal-mart exec on their board, so that's another company whose success doesn't exclusively depend on the U.S. doing well.

It won't let me space the lines *glare*

http://businessround...tive-committee/

Rex W. Tillerson

Chairman & CEO,

Exxon Mobil Corporation

Committee Chair

Andrew N. Liveris

Chairman & CEO,

Dow Chemical Company

Vice Chair and Committee Chair

Ajay Banga

President and CEO,

MasterCard Worldwide

Committee Chair

http://www.nam.org/A...nding-Page.aspx

Sherman J. Glass Jr.

President, ExxonMobil Refining & Supply Co.

Exxon Mobil Corporation

Carol Williams

Executive Vice President, Manufacturing & Engineering

The Dow Chemical Company

Alfred M. Rankin Jr.

Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

NACCO Industries, Inc.