Saturday Delivery - USPS

[gobiggergoredder]

Saw a commercial this morning that made me laugh.

 

http://deliveringforamerica.com/

[gobiggergoredder]

This isn't the commercial that I saw, but it is basically the same thing.

[Junior]

Well thank the House for saving Saturday delivery. Apparently mail service on Saturday is more important than childhood head start programs.

 

http://thehill.com/h...d-saturday-mail

 

House Republican leaders believe the Postal Service has a green light to implement its reduction in Saturday service, even though a House-passed spending bill contains a provision requiring six-day delivery.

[strigori]

Old men need to stop making decisions on things. Letter delivery could go two days a week for all I care. Like most people under 40, everything important for me shows up in my email inbox.

[T_O_Bull]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

[BigRedBuster]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

[sd'sker]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

i agree with not caring about saturday deliveries. but how much do you want to bet that lobbying firms that receive cash from ups and fedex are behind the effort to hamstring usps?

 

personally, i wish usps was obsolete, but it is not. in my business, i heavily rely on it. although, i think it is just a habit of the particular community i work in that developed long ago. almost everything of import is sent through the mail, but hand-delivery and e-mail could largely replace that.

[Malth]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

 

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Regulatory_Commission#Changes_under_the_Postal_Accountability_and_Enhancement_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/dont-let-business-lobbyists-kill-the-post-office-20120423

[husker_99]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

 

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ent_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingst...office-20120423

It was already end game for usps. with the internet and it taking off they essentially turned into another parcel service and we have too many of those already.

[Malth]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

 

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ent_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingst...office-20120423

It was already end game for usps. with the internet and it taking off they essentially turned into another parcel service and we have too many of those already.

 

Minus the ridiculous prefunding requirement, they turned a profit last year. USPS can deliver to your door far cheaper than FedEx and UPS can. Again, as the USPS is required to fund itself, I don't understand why anyone is cheerleading their demise. They provide an important service, and they do it cheaper than anyone else.

 

http://postalnews.com/postalnewsblog/2012/02/10/nalc-congress-turns-200m-usps-profit-into-3-2b-loss/

[BigRedBuster]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

 

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ent_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingst...office-20120423

It was already end game for usps. with the internet and it taking off they essentially turned into another parcel service and we have too many of those already.

 

Minus the ridiculous prefunding requirement, they turned a profit last year. USPS can deliver to your door far cheaper than FedEx and UPS can. Again, as the USPS is required to fund itself, I don't understand why anyone is cheerleading their demise. They provide an important service, and they do it cheaper than anyone else.

 

http://postalnews.co...into-3-2b-loss/

 

 

So....let me get this straight. Congress and government basically has screwed up running the USPS and some people want them in more control of other industries like health care?

 

Hmmmmm.....OK.

[strigori]

Or Congressmen get campaign contributions from the USPS competitors, and intentionally handicap it and set it up to fail.

 

Medicare is already more cost effective than pretty much every private plan out there. Don't kid yourself, there is more to everything in life than someone making massive profit.

[BigRedBuster]

What do you bet the Postal Workers Union is behind this ad?

 

With all the junk that comes who cares about Sat. delivery.

T_O_B

 

 

Bingo.

 

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ent_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingst...office-20120423

 

 

It ALWAYS matters. This goes along with Strigori's post of:

 

Or Congressmen get campaign contributions from the USPS competitors, and intentionally handicap it and set it up to fail.

 

It matters who is pulling the strings for what ever message you are hearing.

 

For me, I don't give a flying rip about Saturday delivery and I think it should be stopped and that isn't tearing apart the USPS. Anyone claiming stopping Saturday delivery is just doing that is fear mongering.

 

Now, if what you are saying is true about the pension plan, then that needs to be looked at. I for one think pension plans are an absolutely horrible way of funding a retirement plan for employees. We have seen what happens to that in the auto industry when companies down size or the particular industry goes through a bad time. It's basically a ponzi scheme set up to fail. Giving everyone the benefit of the doubt in this, I have to assume this is what pushed through any changes in how it was funded.

[Conga3]

Does it matter? USPS recent financial woes is a fabricated issue brought about thanks to Congress. The USPS funds itself, but thanks to the PAEA of 2006, they've been forced to pre-fund pensions for 75 years within 10 years. This is a requirement that nobody else is held to, not even close. That is exactly what's causing large budget shortfalls. IMO, it's nothing but an attack against the union and a public service. Bust all unions, and privatize everything; that's the end game.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....ent_Act_of_2006

http://www.rollingst...office-20120423

 

 

 

Minus the ridiculous prefunding requirement, they turned a profit last year. USPS can deliver to your door far cheaper than FedEx and UPS can. Again, as the USPS is required to fund itself, I don't understand why anyone is cheerleading their demise. They provide an important service, and they do it cheaper than anyone else.

 

http://postalnews.co...into-3-2b-loss/

 

So much wrong.......where to begin.

 

How bout here:

http://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/10k-reports/fy2012.pdf

 

If financial reports scare you folks...here's a summary:

• The USPS gets $3 BILLION/yr in American tax payer money each year in the form of a subsidy.
  
• Even without considering the mandated pension payments, they lost $2.5 BILLION in 2012 ($2.7 BILLION in 2011)
  
• They have borrowed $15 BILLION from the US Treasury (although it's debatable whether this is real money or imaginary...)
  

The most important number is :

• They currently have a running deficit of $38 BILLION since the restructuring in the 70's...and the CBO only expects it to rise.
  
• The US Taxpayer has assumed this debt.
  

There are bright spots in the USPS, but for the most part it's a bloated organization on the downturn, being weighed down by commitments and demands by unionized employees and the semi-management of operations by politicians.

 

They need to cut services, employees, and compensation packages.

[sd'sker]

So....let me get this straight. Congress and government basically has screwed up running the USPS and some people want them in more control of other industries like health care?

 

Hmmmmm.....OK.

republicans really know what they are doing. they run programs into the ground and then argue that the gov't should not be in control of anything. it is like hiring a vegan to be your butcher.