Mavric Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 IRS attorneys have asserted in internal documents that the Fourth Amendment does not protect email and that a warrant is not needed to plant a GPS location tracker on a car in its owner’s driveway. In documents obtained from the IRS by the ACLU under the federal Freedom of Information Act and posted on the website Wednesday, the agency’s attorneys adopt an extremely aggressive posture toward the requirements the Fourth Amendment might place on its criminal investigators who want to read email or text messages, or use GPS location tracking. “The Fourth Amendment does not protect communications held in electronic storage, such as email messages stored on a server, because Internet users do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such communications,” states a 2009 “Search Warrant Handbook” from the IRS Criminal Tax Division's Office of Chief Counsel. Washington Times Article Link to comment
tschu Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Just pay your taxes and dont do anything illegal and you don't have sh#t to worry about This country is going to have a ton of decisions regarding digital rights/privacy to make in the coming years Link to comment
rawhide Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Bill 'o' Rights don't cover digital Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm with tschu on this one. Things are changing faster than our laws and constitution can keep. If folks just keep their noses clean then there's nothing to hide. Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Yeah because I am sure the IRS would never ever mistakenly use or abuse its power. I mean they're a top notch government entity, what could possibly go wrong? 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm with tschu on this one. Things are changing faster than our laws and constitution can keep. If folks just keep their noses clean then there's nothing to hide. Really???? Wow....that is a scary thought. Hey....keep your head down, nose clean and don't give the government people any reason to do anything bad to you. Those comments bring thoughts to my mind from of countries we defeated in the 1940s. Link to comment
Whistlebritches Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm with tschu on this one. Things are changing faster than our laws and constitution can keep. If folks just keep their noses clean then there's nothing to hide. I'm curious what your thoughts are about the Stop and Frisk law in New York City? It's no different than what you are suggesting. If you aren't doing anything illegal then why should you care if the police come by and pat you down. Link to comment
Junior Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Don't agree with this at all. Didn't agree with illegal wire-tapping from the Bush administration either. I view them as kind of the same thing. Link to comment
carlfense Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 This is BS. Terrible argument from the IRS attorneys. Link to comment
Hingle McCringleberry Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Don't agree with this at all. Didn't agree with illegal wire-tapping from the Bush administration either. I view them as kind of the same thing. Not as timely as it could of been, these things were FB gold a few months ago... But I think this sums it up very well... 2 Link to comment
carlfense Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Don't agree with this at all. Didn't agree with illegal wire-tapping from the Bush administration either. I view them as kind of the same thing. Not as timely as it could of been, these things were FB gold a few months ago... But I think this sums it up very well... When it comes to domestic privacy that's spot on. When it comes to transparency Obama is probably worse. (I support his policies in a lot of other ares . . . but the above two are definitely sore spots.) Link to comment
sd'sker Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 i get the impression that some people on this board read orwell as utopia-fiction. also, that is a funny meme. pretty accurate. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Don't agree with this at all. Didn't agree with illegal wire-tapping from the Bush administration either. I view them as kind of the same thing. Not as timely as it could of been, these things were FB gold a few months ago... But I think this sums it up very well... When it comes to domestic privacy that's spot on. When it comes to transparency Obama is probably worse. (I support his policies in a lot of other ares . . . but the above two are definitely sore spots.) although he has not dragged us into multiple wars, his foreign policy is pretty status quo, which is to say disappointing. Link to comment
carlfense Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 although he has not dragged us into multiple wars, his foreign policy is pretty status quo, which is to say disappointing. At least he is ending wars . . . I'm not convinced that Bush/Cheney wouldn't have us in Iran at this point. Link to comment
sd'sker Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 although he has not dragged us into multiple wars, his foreign policy is pretty status quo, which is to say disappointing. At least he is ending wars . . . I'm not convinced that Bush/Cheney wouldn't have us in Iran at this point. looking at a map, it definitely seemed as though they were trying to tighten a noose around iran. Link to comment
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