carlfense Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 The "things" I was talking about were conditions in Egypt and the perception of US foreign policy in that part of the world. Not sure how you get there from here . . . Maybe if we pretend that the Egyptian people are happy with our politics, then things will get better. Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 The "things" I was talking about were conditions in Egypt and the perception of US foreign policy in that part of the world. Not sure how you get there from here . . . Maybe if we pretend that the Egyptian people are happy with our politics, then things will get better. Why? Do you not view our foreign policy and meddling in other countries affairs as part of our politics? I do. Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Do you not view our foreign policy and meddling in other countries affairs as part of our politics? Not really. "Politics," imo, carries a domestic affairs connotation. When I hear "politics" I think elections, domestic policy, politicians, etc. Egyptian opinions and the conditions in Egypt are awfully far down that list if they're on it at all. Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Do you not view our foreign policy and meddling in other countries affairs as part of our politics? Not really. "Politics," imo, carries a domestic affairs connotation. When I hear "politics" I think elections, domestic policy, politicians, etc. Egyptian opinions and the conditions in Egypt are awfully far down that list if they're on it at all. Well I guess that explains the disconnect between my politics comment and a couple of the rather strange responses to it. I sure didn't intend to throw a monkey wrench into the discussion. Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? are you sure it's not... Link to comment
rawhide Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Most of the billions are for military aid. One of the more robust, stable military outfits we give $$$. I'm sure oil is part of the equation also. Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Most of the billions are for military aid. One of the more robust, stable military outfits we give $$$. I'm sure oil is part of the equation also. Guess thats a billion and a half we can start saving... Continuing monetary "aid" to Egypt is like throwing hundred dollar bills at a one legged stripper... Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Hey.....what's wrong with one legged strippers? Link to comment
huKSer Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? Egypt is 28th in oil production, which is 0.8% of the world's production. Just ahead of the state of North Dakota. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production Maybe N Dak should demand 1.45 billion in aid? Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? Egypt is 28th in oil production, which is 0.8% of the world's production. Just ahead of the state of North Dakota. https://en.wikipedia..._oil_production Maybe N Dak should demand 1.45 billion in aid? Regional. Not just Egypt. I think that I had to point that out in the Syria thread as well . . . Edit: found it. http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/65372-the-palin-doctrine-let-allah-sort-it-out/page__view__findpost__p__1173289 1 Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Doesn't matter if they're an "ally" or not, they're on the edge of the cauldron of sh*t that is the middle east, and why in the hell are we giving them 1.5 billion a year??? Egypt is 28th in oil production, which is 0.8% of the world's production. Just ahead of the state of North Dakota. https://en.wikipedia..._oil_production Maybe N Dak should demand 1.45 billion in aid? Regional. Not just Egypt. I think that I had to point that out in the Syria thread as well . . . Edit: found it. http://www.huskerboa...ost__p__1173289 And it goes back to what I said (which I'm not going to link), if they want to off each other in droves, then have at it. Not sure why people have it stuck in their noggins that because we're going to go over there, it's going to stop the 1000+ years of animosity that they have for each other... Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 And it goes back to what I said (which I'm not going to link), if they want to off each other in droves, then have at it. Not sure why people have it stuck in their noggins that because we're going to go over there, it's going to stop the 1000+ years of animosity that they have for each other... I don't think we can put out the fires . . . I think the idea is to keep them contained and keep the oil flowing. Then again, it's quite possible that I have an overly simplistic view of foreign policy. FWIW, I agree with you about the 1,000+ years of animosity. The middle east will probably be a powder keg into the distant future. Too many religious radicals combined with $$$$ Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 And it goes back to what I said (which I'm not going to link), if they want to off each other in droves, then have at it. Not sure why people have it stuck in their noggins that because we're going to go over there, it's going to stop the 1000+ years of animosity that they have for each other... I don't think we can put out the fires . . . I think the idea is to keep them contained and keep the oil flowing. Then again, it's quite possible that I have an overly simplistic view of foreign policy. FWIW, I agree with you about the 1,000+ years of animosity. The middle east will probably be a powder keg into the distant future. Too many religious radicals combined with $$$$ I concur, I think the "fires" will be put out. As for keeping them contained, I think that will be next to impossible with what has happened up to this point and peoples perception of things... The only way I could even see keeping them contained would be a complete disarmament of the middle east, and that will never happen... Link to comment
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