Jay Foreman's Thoughts

[EbylHusker]

It's this nebulous thing that varies in definition depending on the person talking.

[Polarhusker]

I normally like listening to Jay and do agree with some of what he had to say. I just don't know what he means that current and former players don't understand "the Nebraska way". I guess the only one's that understand this are the one's that played in the 90's.

 

I think Jay believes it would be beneficial to have an influential player from Osborne's era to be a link with the current team. I think he's referring to a role perhaps like Stai. I don't know that it would need to be someone like Frazier or J Peter, but I think that's the type of situation Foreman is alluding to. I understand where Jay is coming from, and I like the things Jay writes. I find Foreman to be insightful and generally complimentary toward Pelini.

 

But like most posters on here believe this isn't the Osborne era of the 90's. Is he saying that any player that didn't play for Osborne doesn't know the "the Nebraska way"? And for the record having Frazier or JP talk to the team would be nothing more than a melt down. for me those two are nothing more than cancer. Other respectable players from those teams would be a nice touch tho.

[Polarhusker]

Perhaps the former players should be more supportive of the current team instead of insisting that they know better and things should be different.

this is true also.

[Polarhusker]

Players today could not hold a candle to the teams of 15 years ago.

funny how times change but fans don't.

[Polarhusker]

Is the "Nebraska Way" even a real thing, or is it just the "Devaney" and "Osborne" way which is just two great coaches who knew how to build a culture conducive to winning?

True but a different time and era.

[Goal-line]

I absolutely believe this statement by Foreman to be true! NU coaches need to embrace and listen to those who have achieved the success of Husker tradition. Shutting out players like TF and JP because they disagree with you is not productive. They have insight. They can have constructive input. These two individuals simply say what many other Husker fans are thinking. Maybe being a good listener is a positive quality for a head coach?

So you expect Bo to agree with Tommie when he calls on him to fire a bunch of his assistants? Why? Did Tommie show he knows a lot about coaching?

No! TF simply said what a lot of other folks are thinking. However, if Pelini cannot see what is going on around him, and everyone else can, he should perk up his ears. Ask you self this question, Do you think the idea of making coaching changes has ever crossed his mind? It is almost never productive to hire friends as assistants and almost impossible to fire them.

[Count 'Bility]

Players today could not hold a candle to the teams of 15 years ago.

Wow. Thanks Mr. Obvious.

[HUSKER FREAK]

My take on the "Nebraska Way" Faith, Family, Hard work, dedication, and Husker Football. Although I think in recent years there are many people in Nebraska that have lost the Nebraska way as well. But, all in all we are pretty humble people IMO.

[jmfb]

Players today could not hold a candle to the teams of 15 years ago.

funny how times change but fans don't.

Well a good number of the fans sitting in the seats- were around in the 90s and even 80s

The players and almost all of the coaches werent

[suh_fan93]

What he means by the 'Nebraska way' is playing for the guy next to you and being held accountable to him and leaving everything out on that field. Nothing more and nothing less. Blood, sweat and tears on every single play and playing with a 'chip' on your shoulder. He's exactly right when both him and Jason Peter say they don't see that when they watch the current Huskers play. It's definitely a different culture that's for sure.

 

 

[Count 'Bility]

I saw some pretty uninspired performances by them teams in the 90's at times too. Sure it wasnt nearly as common as today's team, but to act like those guys plays EVERY single down of their careers with their hair on fire is quite stretch. Simply not true.

[suh_fan93]

I saw some pretty uninspired performances by them teams in the 90's at times too. Sure it wasnt nearly as common as today's team, but to act like those guys plays EVERY single down of their careers with their hair on fire is quite stretch. Simply not true.

 

The point is most of Osborne's teams if not all played with and owned this 'attitude'. If you don't agree with that then I can't help you there dude.

 

 

[trouble]

I absolutely believe this statement by Foreman to be true! NU coaches need to embrace and listen to those who have achieved the success of Husker tradition. Shutting out players like TF and JP because they disagree with you is not productive. They have insight. They can have constructive input. These two individuals simply say what many other Husker fans are thinking. Maybe being a good listener is a positive quality for a head coach?

 

 

I find it admirable that all of his former players came to bat for him which tells me his players are really down for him regardless of what the perception is BUT not one of those players understood or understands the "Nebraska way." Not because they didn't want to but because it wasn't made available to them or maybe a little of both.

 

Tommie Fraziers input wasn't constructive criticism. Not even close.

[EbylHusker]

Frazier's tone coming through the tweet(s) was definitely, "Imma take my toys and go home!" It's a great and mature way to get your point across, not to mention going a long way to showing just how much you actually support the program.

[Number12]

I think some players want to know "the nebraska way" and do research and ask questions to people who know b/c they want to know. Honestly i think its something every incoming player should be taught. Kind of a "voluntary" class they HAVE to go through. Bring in former players, coaches, etc. Show them videos and interviews of players, coaches, fans, etc. Introduce them to what is expected being a player for the Huskers.

 

 

I think this would be a pretty cool idea.

 

If anyone wants to hear a raw uncut reason why Foreman has ideas like this, take a listen to PJ Smith on the Sharp and Benning show the other day. PJ and Foreman seem like they're really friendly with each other so it's not bad blood or anything, but in PJ's on-air defense of Bo, he kind of made points against himself. He's a very honest and passionate guy, and sometimes that rawness gets in the way of his points. He was talking about how the fans that left the OSU game gave up on the players, and so of COURSE they were gonna be pissed at them. There was no hint of understanding why the fans might have left (the team's first half performance). He went on to say that after a loss that happened on Saturday, how can you possibly still be pissed about it on a Tuesday??

 

It's the little things like that that have crept into the culture that show the real difference I think. The past decade has really beaten the toughness and resolve out of our guys, and that's not just a Bo thing. It's really hard to just decide to have the type of mentality that every single loss is a HUGE blow to the entire state and to yourself, when every Husker team in the past ten years has had quite a few of them. I think Foreman would just like if he or other former players could help Bo establish that classic Husker culture of not tolerating anything less than the best.