Children and immigration reform

[Danny Bateman]

2 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

What are you even talking about? This isn’t a safari

 

Take the number from 5,000 and put it at 2,000 ALL INCLUDED with automatic triggers that only a bipartisan commission (equal party representation) can override and not a president.  
Allow all Federal Jurisdictions to hear cases and not just the DC Jurisdiction 

Amnesty…must have been documented to be denied amnesty from a contingent country before applying to US and remain in Mexico if Amnesty cases reach over 1,000 a day.   
Equal amount of funding for Southern Border as any funding for Ukraine and Israel security.  
No sunset on the enforcement provisions. 
 

Keep the rest of the Democrat wish list in the bill and call it good.   That wasn’t too hard 

If they thought that would get 60 votes that would be the bill.

 

Republicans don’t have the leverage you think they do and they just handed Biden a stick to beat them with. Bang up job.

[Danny Bateman]

1 hour ago, DevoHusker said:

 

 

 

RFK Jr. says Russia ‘acting in good faith’ in Ukraine invasion, US in part to blame for war

 

Pretty sure Bobby Junior can sit this one out. 

[Archy1221]

11 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

f they thought that would get 60 votes that would be the bill

There is no reason for Democrats to not support that number for bipartisan reasons when they are getting so much more in the bill.  Instead, Republican Senators doing the negotiations just went along to get along and got rolled.  
 

BTw….this is why it was a feature for the border to be a disaster these past years and not a bug.    Now the ruling class idiots in Washington can say “see, we are making it a little better so get on board or you are against immigration reform” when in reality the “fix” is still way worse then what it was a few years  ago.  

[BigRedBuster]

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

There is no reason for Democrats to not support that number for bipartisan reasons when they are getting so much more in the bill.  Instead, Republican Senators doing the negotiations just went along to get along and got rolled.  
 

BTw….this is why it was a feature for the border to be a disaster these past years and not a bug.    Now the ruling class idiots in Washington can say “see, we are making it a little better so get on board or you are against immigration reform” when in reality the “fix” is still way worse then what it was a few years  ago.  

It literally strengthens about everything about the border. It increases border guards. It increases detention centers. In doubles deportation flights. It gives border patrol more power to detain people and deport them. It sets a standard as to when the border is shut down. 
 

Why do you think the border patrol is supporting the bill?  
 

But, hey….it doesn’t help republicans/Trump get reelected so it must suck. 

[Archy1221]

24 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

It's even more funny when they're going to reject the most restrictive immigration compromise they're ever going to receive and simultaneously go through the dog-and-pony show of impeaching the Secretary of DHS for not being restrictive enough. 

Ya good point on the restrictions.    It’s like a 14 year staying out all night long on the weekends with very few restrictions and then the parents finally have a talk and say “this is bulls#!t, you are only 15 and for now on you are gonna have to be home by 4:00 am and make sure you aren’t driving drunk.  Stop drinking at midnight so it’s filters through your body before driving home.  It’s not the best solution but at least it’s the most draconian restrictions we can give you!!!!”  

 

[Archy1221]

3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

It sets a standard as to when the border is shut down. 

Earlier you just posted from Chris Murphy that the border will not be shut down because $2 billion a day in activity.  So which is it?  
 

 

[commando]

the border patrol just endorsed the bill and asked for it's swift passage

[Archy1221]

4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

It literally strengthens about everything about the border. It increases border guards. It increases detention centers. In doubles deportation flights. It gives border patrol more power to detain people and deport them.

It also codifies 1.8 million illegal entries a year before any tough standards take effect!  Why can’t that number be lower than the 2014 yearly standards?  
 

 

6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

But, hey….it doesn’t help republicans/Trump get reelected so it must suck. 

Or the bill just sucks, full stop.  

[commando]

 

[BigRedBuster]

8 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

also codifies 1.8 million illegal entries a year before any tough standards take effect!  Why can’t that number be lower than the 2014 yearly standards?  

No….it doesn’t. But, your party wants you to think it does. 

[commando]

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

No….it doesn’t. But, your party wants you to think it does. 

the border patrol (they know a thing or 2 about the border) says they hope it passes,,,but trump, the maga republicans, and our very own big boy say it sucks.

[DevoHusker]

42 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

RFK Jr. says Russia ‘acting in good faith’ in Ukraine invasion, US in part to blame for war

 

Pretty sure Bobby Junior can sit this one out. 

I dunno...this sounds pretty spot on:

“I abhor Russia’s brutal and bloody invasion of that nation,” Kennedy said, according to ABC News. “But we must understand that our government has also contributed to its circumstances through repeated deliberate provocations of Russia going back to the 1990s.”

[Danny Bateman]

18 minutes ago, commando said:

 

Has anyone told the Border Patrol that they’re a bunch of RINO cucks? 
 

Obviously they want this to fail so they can just keep living on Easy Street.

[BigRedBuster]

31 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

It also codifies 1.8 million illegal entries a year before any tough standards take effect!  Why can’t that number be lower than the 2014 yearly standards?

 

[BigRedBuster]

Yeah…..we should make these kids pay for their own legal fees. 
 

Thats the America I want to live in.