DevoHusker Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, knapplc said: Where are the direct queries the administration isn't responding to? Who is making that claim? Where is the publicly listed info on the flights? The original tweet said Mayorkas refused to provide the details. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, DevoHusker said: Where is the publicly listed info on the flights? The original tweet said Mayorkas refused to provide the details. The original tweet from... the right-wing anti-immigrant source? That original tweet? Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, knapplc said: The original tweet from... the right-wing anti-immigrant source? That original tweet? Yes 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 19 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Yes Notice the delay and obfuscation to a pretty direct question that should be easily answered? 1 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, DevoHusker said: I want contributors to have access. From what I have seen, this isn't the way to do it, for reasons previously stated. These are people who go through a process set up for them to be granted legal access before they get here. They then are granted the ability to get jobs and start a life. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 17 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: These are people who go through a process set up for them to be granted legal access before they get here. They then are granted the ability to get jobs and start a life. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I don't know how it works in specific terms, so you might be right, but there are so many issues when people in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala or even China or Haiti, fill out an application on a cell phone app, then get picked up at an airport, flown to the central US, then given a pass for two years with a promise to show up at a hearing somewhere. Have they been issued the legal ability to do so? I cannot find that answer, and has the heated discussion earlier show, there are several points of contention. Do we have HSI or BP agents at those foreign airports? Have these folks been vetted by their home Countries? All good questions I would think. And, if it is such a good deal, why was it done in secret? You know that I am on the record that I WANT the hardworking family folks to be able to legally come here and start a better life...but not until after the border is secure. Remember, the 300k+ number is over and above the reported/known number of over 2.5 million in 2023 alone...and we are on pace to surpass that this year. If we don't have a defined and defended border, we have no sovereignty. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Have they been issued the legal ability to do so? Yes, the term inadmissible simply means they have not been granted permission to enter the country. So, if they show up at the border, they can't come in legally. By going through the app, they fill out the pertinent information, our government has that information and grants them access if they don't see a red flag. So, when the plane lands, they are here legally. That's pretty much what I gathered from the link I provided. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 37 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Yes, the term inadmissible simply means they have not been granted permission to enter the country. So, if they show up at the border, they can't come in legally. By going through the app, they fill out the pertinent information, our government has that information and grants them access if they don't see a red flag. So, when the plane lands, they are here legally. That's pretty much what I gathered from the link I provided. It really is that simple. Of course, anti-immigrant nationalists on the far right fringe are going to use whatever rhetoric they can to scare Americans about it. And it's sad that this is so effective. 2 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 @DevoHuskerhmmm….still no answer to your direct question now after three chances. 1 1 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: The headline for this article called it "unfounded" and then goes on about it being true, lol 1 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Reading comprehension should be a focus in our schools. The headline states, very clearly, that the word "secretly" is unfounded. It is not a secret. They publish the numbers every month. The AP article gives a breakdown of these parolees by nationality. The racist CIS article that started this whole stupid conversation insinuated that this was some clandestine effort to bring bad people to America. It's nothing like that, at all. America's economy depends on these workers. Yeah, they're a different race than you. That doesn't make it a problem. 3 1 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 16 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: The headline for this article called it "unfounded" and then goes on about it being true, lol No, it really doesn't. What's untrue is the word "secretly". It wasn't done secretly. 2 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: No, it really doesn't. What's untrue is the word "secretly". It wasn't done secretly. Okay. Serious question, did you know about it more than 36 hours ago? 320,000 flown by the US govt into our Nation's interior is usually something that would get picked up by news sources, no? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Okay. Serious question, did you know about it more than 36 hours ago? 320,000 flown by the US govt into our Nation's interior is usually something that would get picked up by news sources, no? No, but there's a hell of a lot of stuff I don't know about and it's not because it's some clandestine secret from the government. I did always figure there was some process on line that people could use to apply to get into the country. That's basically what this is. 2 1 3 Link to comment
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