LukeinNE Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Ukraine says they have phone intercepts proving it was the rebels. The nice thing about that is that it's verifiable. No link but the front webpage of the WSJ is saying that US intel confirms it was a surface to air missile. Wreckage is in rebel hands. Quote Link to comment
Hooked on Huskers Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 What's the story with 777? I swear in the last two years, all breaking news in air disasters was Boeing 777. Boeing renamed 666? Hopefully shot down (Ruskies) or terrorists instead of plane problems (USA). Both sad. BTW, Russian SAM radar is light-years away from our design . AN/MPS-T1 is a massive system was re-engineered (copycat) from a captured system. I, E/F and G employs track-while-scan technology, using trough and dish scanners on the three pedestals. G band was most effective. In contrary, E/F was mostly cannibalized (spare parts). I believe this picture was Det. 10 Hastings Nebraska. I know, who give a sh*t but time to time, flashback in my Air Force career .... I was stationed at Det. 10 Hastings. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Smooth move there, Ex-Lax: Oui? Quote Link to comment
tschu Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass.“This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin Quote Link to comment
Creighton Duke Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass. “This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin What is your point here? Do I even want to know? Quote Link to comment
tschu Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 What's yours? Do I even want to know? Quote Link to comment
Creighton Duke Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I mean, I was inquiring about some random quotes and a random (typically emotional) statement about Vlad Putin, so I would think that the onus is on you. I don' know that you would understand if I made an analogy here of what I think you may be getting at. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass. “This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin What is your point here? Do I even want to know? Here, let’s see if I can help you out: A civilian airliner was shot down over the Ukraine near the Russian border, apparently by a Russian Buk surface-to-air missile. In response, Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, said “[o]bviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” and “[t]his tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed.” Most people would think this is not an appropriate response to make after your military kills 295 passengers on a civilian airliner—regardless of where it happens. Is Tschu’s post clear to you now, or will further explanation be necessary? 1 Quote Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The first line is incredibly stupid...it's like saying Russia would be responsible if a US faction shot down a Russia plane over Russian territory. Putin's second line isn't that absurd. Quote Link to comment
Creighton Duke Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass. “This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin What is your point here? Do I even want to know? Here, let’s see if I can help you out: A civilian airliner was shot down over the Ukraine near the Russian border, apparently by a Russian Buk surface-to-air missile. In response, Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, said “[o]bviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” and “[t]his tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed.” Most people would think this is not an appropriate response to make after your military kills 280 passengers on a civilian airliner—regardless of where it happens. Is Tschu’s post clear to you now, or will further explanation be necessary? So some rebels may have gotten their hands on a Russian missile, shot some people down (in a non-Russian country) and Vlad Putin is supposed to say...what? Quote Link to comment
tschu Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "Some rebels," who have been openly supported by Russia and backed by the Russian military to varying extents, oh, just happened across some Russian anti-aircraft missiles. Lying in a ditch somewhere I suppose. And shot down a civilian plane. Followed by those comments from Putin. That's worthy of an eyebrow raise, at the very least. 2 Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass. “This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin What is your point here? Do I even want to know? Here, let’s see if I can help you out: A civilian airliner was shot down over the Ukraine near the Russian border, apparently by a Russian Buk surface-to-air missile. In response, Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, said “[o]bviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” and “[t]his tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed.” Most people would think this is not an appropriate response to make after your military kills 280 passengers on a civilian airliner—regardless of where it happens. Is Tschu’s post clear to you now, or will further explanation be necessary? So some rebels may have gotten their hands on a Russian missile, shot some people down (in a non-Russian country) and Vlad Putin is supposed to say...what? Link? Or is that just some gossip you heard down at the beach house? Quote Link to comment
Creighton Duke Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "Some rebels," who have been openly supported by Russia and backed by the Russian military to varying extents, oh, just happened across some Russian anti-aircraft missiles. Lying in a ditch somewhere I suppose. And shot down a civilian plane. Followed by those comments from Putin. That's worthy of an eyebrow raise, at the very least. Sure, I get all of that (don't necessarily but into it, but that's not the point), but, like I asked, what is Vlad Putin supposed to say? Quote Link to comment
Creighton Duke Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 “Obviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” Putin said as cited by Itar-Tass. “This tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed,” he believes. Holy sh#t, Mr. Putin What is your point here? Do I even want to know? Here, let’s see if I can help you out: A civilian airliner was shot down over the Ukraine near the Russian border, apparently by a Russian Buk surface-to-air missile. In response, Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia, said “[o]bviously, the state over whose territory it happened bears responsibility for this terrible tragedy,” and “[t]his tragedy would not have happened if there was peace on this land, if military action in the southeast of Ukraine had not been resumed.” Most people would think this is not an appropriate response to make after your military kills 280 passengers on a civilian airliner—regardless of where it happens. Is Tschu’s post clear to you now, or will further explanation be necessary? So some rebels may have gotten their hands on a Russian missile, shot some people down (in a non-Russian country) and Vlad Putin is supposed to say...what? Link? Or is that just some gossip you heard down at the beach house? What? (Don't need to clarify the second part...and its a condo!) Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "Some rebels," who have been openly supported by Russia and backed by the Russian military to varying extents, oh, just happened across some Russian anti-aircraft missiles. Lying in a ditch somewhere I suppose. And shot down a civilian plane. Followed by those comments from Putin. That's worthy of an eyebrow raise, at the very least. Sure, I get all of that (don't necessarily but into it, but that's not the point), but, like I asked, what is Vlad Putin supposed to say? Maybe he could spread that rumor about the rebels. Heck, maybe he started the rumor. Quote Link to comment
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