HuskerinSunDiego Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 When it comes to picking a coach, I don't like coaches who are supposedly good coaches, but have only had pedestrian winning records. Take McElwain for instance. He has coached at CSU for three years. He's had one good year, this year. In the previous two years, he had a losing record, 12-14. Yeah, CSU had a good year, but they only have one semi-quality win, a victory over Boston College. The rest of their schedule was pretty-much patsies. I think it's risky diving for a guy who has only had one good season. McElwain is similar to Brady Hoke, who had several losing seasons at Ball State but then took them to 12-1. The point is that a good coach should have a good record over time AND have demonstrated the skills of a good football coach. Yes, you can argue that Scott Frost can't be trusted. And you would be partially right. Yes, both Frost and McElwain could come here and both do very well. But, the reality is that neither has a long enough body of work to determine whether they will actually be good, or just be another Brady Hoke. It's easy to get infatuated with a guy because he becomes the flavor of the month. Now that Florida is pursuing McElwain, he is suddenly supposedly a better coach. The guy still has only one winning season. Quote Link to comment
Husker no ka oi Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Don't worry about it. He's the next coach of the gators. Let Florida be the guinea pig on this matter. Quote Link to comment
HuskerinSunDiego Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 If he goes to the Gators, let's hope he's Ron Zook 2! Quote Link to comment
mk12_delta Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Which is why we're getting the slam dunk combo Tressel & Frost. Quote Link to comment
HuskerinSunDiego Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Which is why we're getting the slam dunk combo Tressel & Frost. Would love this to be true. Tressel is old enough that Frost could believe that he's the coach in waiting. I'd be all for this. However, my gut instinct is that Frost wants to be top dog somewhere, now. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 When it comes to picking a coach, I don't like coaches who are supposedly good coaches, but have only had pedestrian winning records. Take McElwain for instance. He has coached at CSU for three years. He's had one good year, this year. In the previous two years, he had a losing record, 12-14. Yeah, CSU had a good year, but they only have one semi-quality win, a victory over Boston College. The rest of their schedule was pretty-much patsies. I think it's risky diving for a guy who has only had one good season. McElwain is similar to Brady Hoke, who had several losing seasons at Ball State but then took them to 12-1. The point is that a good coach should have a good record over time AND have demonstrated the skills of a good football coach. Yes, you can argue that Scott Frost can't be trusted. And you would be partially right. Yes, both Frost and McElwain could come here and both do very well. But, the reality is that neither has a long enough body of work to determine whether they will actually be good, or just be another Brady Hoke. It's easy to get infatuated with a guy because he becomes the flavor of the month. Now that Florida is pursuing McElwain, he is suddenly supposedly a better coach. The guy still has only one winning season. Disagree. It takes a great coach to take CSU to 10-2. 1 Quote Link to comment
ladyhawke Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 We don't have to worry about this as he is all but signed, sealed and delivered to Florida. I'm sad to see that happen as I think he would've been good at Nebraska. Sounds like a smart guy-good coach. Quote Link to comment
Shooter McGavin Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 First time poster long time lurker. Jim McElwain is the real deal but it doesn't matter as soon as CSU drops the buy out he's Florida's guy. I've went to several CSU games over the past 5 years and what he done to this program out here is amazing. I watched under the previous staff and their inept coaching and just went to games to kill time and watch what other teams offered. Watched the spring game of Jim's first year and it was God awful, GG the qb was bad and i mean TA 1-11 bad missing everyone but the defense. Hollywood the WR was equally as bad dropping 6 or 7 passes from the other qb. Now look at them, GG the qb is the MW player of the year and that kid can throw a ball and Hollywood should win or be top on biletnikoff award. I know they play sup par teams but what he did with what he had this guy was my number 1 hopeful. 2 Quote Link to comment
HuskerinSunDiego Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 When it comes to picking a coach, I don't like coaches who are supposedly good coaches, but have only had pedestrian winning records. Take McElwain for instance. He has coached at CSU for three years. He's had one good year, this year. In the previous two years, he had a losing record, 12-14. Yeah, CSU had a good year, but they only have one semi-quality win, a victory over Boston College. The rest of their schedule was pretty-much patsies. I think it's risky diving for a guy who has only had one good season. McElwain is similar to Brady Hoke, who had several losing seasons at Ball State but then took them to 12-1. The point is that a good coach should have a good record over time AND have demonstrated the skills of a good football coach. Yes, you can argue that Scott Frost can't be trusted. And you would be partially right. Yes, both Frost and McElwain could come here and both do very well. But, the reality is that neither has a long enough body of work to determine whether they will actually be good, or just be another Brady Hoke. It's easy to get infatuated with a guy because he becomes the flavor of the month. Now that Florida is pursuing McElwain, he is suddenly supposedly a better coach. The guy still has only one winning season. Disagree. It takes a great coach to take CSU to 10-2. Not true. We all know that Bo could have taken them to 10-2. Their schedule was weak. Quote Link to comment
tattooedhusker Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 When it comes to picking a coach, I don't like coaches who are supposedly good coaches, but have only had pedestrian winning records. Take McElwain for instance. He has coached at CSU for three years. He's had one good year, this year. In the previous two years, he had a losing record, 12-14. Yeah, CSU had a good year, but they only have one semi-quality win, a victory over Boston College. The rest of their schedule was pretty-much patsies. I think it's risky diving for a guy who has only had one good season. McElwain is similar to Brady Hoke, who had several losing seasons at Ball State but then took them to 12-1. The point is that a good coach should have a good record over time AND have demonstrated the skills of a good football coach. Yes, you can argue that Scott Frost can't be trusted. And you would be partially right. Yes, both Frost and McElwain could come here and both do very well. But, the reality is that neither has a long enough body of work to determine whether they will actually be good, or just be another Brady Hoke. It's easy to get infatuated with a guy because he becomes the flavor of the month. Now that Florida is pursuing McElwain, he is suddenly supposedly a better coach. The guy still has only one winning season. Disagree. It takes a great coach to take CSU to 10-2. Not true. We all know that Bo could have taken them to 10-2. Their schedule was weak. You can't be serious... Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It's rare to see multiple 10 win seasons in the mid majors, the coach usually gets a bigger offer. And since it's hard to maintain success at any level he wisely sells high. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The OP is so uninformed and full of poor conclusions, I wouldn't even know where to begin. Quote Link to comment
Lux Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This makes.me laugh. Every school should wait for a proven coach. Great.philosophy. why stop there? If they don't have a national title under their belt.don't hire them. Quote Link to comment
Husker Q Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 McElwain is a good guy and has done a GREAT job at CSU. A bit of a question mark like almost everyone else on the rumor list. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The OP is so uninformed and full of poor conclusions, I wouldn't even know where to begin. just let him have his threads. Quote Link to comment
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