teachercd Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 With the knowledge that there is a 99.9% chance of this staff being here for 1-2 more seasons, I want to blindly buy into a lot of the things Radar is saying, but those INT stats might have snapped me out of make-believe land where I just hope this staff is better here than they were at OSU. It's hard to believe. How about we wait until POB gets here in January and see how the career of a real passing Qb goes. TA is just a run and chuck it qb. Manion had just 8 INT's last year under Riley. An NFL QB and they won 5 games... 1 Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 With the knowledge that there is a 99.9% chance of this staff being here for 1-2 more seasons, I want to blindly buy into a lot of the things Radar is saying, but those INT stats might have snapped me out of make-believe land where I just hope this staff is better here than they were at OSU. It's hard to believe.How about we wait until POB gets here in January and see how the career of a real passing Qb goes. TA is just a run and chuck it qb. Manion had just 8 INT's last year under Riley. An NFL QB and they won 5 games... It all goes back to overall talent, not much at OSU and Bo didn't leave much here, hence, no draftable seniors. Tough to win with no top overall talent. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 In defense of TA, I decided to look back at Riley's qb's over the years. I found some info that was surprising and a little troubling 2003 - 24 int - Derek Anderson 2004 - 17 int - Derek Anderson 2005 - 19 int - Matt Moore 2006 - 7 int - Matt Moore 2007 - 21 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2008 - 15 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2009 - 7 int - Sean Canfield 2010 - 11 int - Ryan Katz 2011 - 19 int - Ryan Katz/Sean Mannion 2012 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/Cody Vaz 2013 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/ Cody Vaz 2014 - 8 int - Sean Mannion Looking at this list, TA's int total should not surprising. These were all pro style qb's many of whom are in the NFL. I think we should get used to seeing double digit int's as long as Riley is coach. Especially with first year starters... Was just looking for these stats. Thanks for posting. So clearly not TA's fault, or at least not his sole fault. This is an average staff continuing a long trend. Personally, I would not have a problem seeing where things go, if people would quit blaming players. Then the player should quit throwing stupid interceptions. He thinks he has to make a play instead of throwing it away. Hopfully POB will put enough pressure on him to make him fear for his job. He might be inclined to make better decisions.So you are blaming the players for the INT's at Oregon State, but who recruited, developed, and called the plays for those QB's who threw all those INT's at Oregon Statw. The one constant in all of those INT riddled years is Riley. The qb at Oregon St threw 11 INT's this year, last year under Riley their qb threw 8, without Riley they increased 30%. Yup Riley's fault. That's a constant I guess. Ha! Freshman starter because Riley truly left a bare cupboard there. He would have been relying on a former walkon transfer if he'd stayed. Writing was on the wall at OSU. That staff got out while the getting was good. And it cuts the other way too. Only 8 picks, but how many wins? Maybe picks aren't the real problem Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 With the knowledge that there is a 99.9% chance of this staff being here for 1-2 more seasons, I want to blindly buy into a lot of the things Radar is saying, but those INT stats might have snapped me out of make-believe land where I just hope this staff is better here than they were at OSU. It's hard to believe.How about we wait until POB gets here in January and see how the career of a real passing Qb goes. TA is just a run and chuck it qb. Manion had just 8 INT's last year under Riley.An NFL QB and they won 5 games... It all goes back to overall talent, not much at OSU and Bo didn't leave much here, hence, no draftable seniors. Tough to win with no top overall talent. Don't get hurt using that twisted logic. These are so reminiscent of the tortured logic people used to defend Callahan 1.0. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 In defense of TA, I decided to look back at Riley's qb's over the years. I found some info that was surprising and a little troubling 2003 - 24 int - Derek Anderson 2004 - 17 int - Derek Anderson 2005 - 19 int - Matt Moore 2006 - 7 int - Matt Moore 2007 - 21 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2008 - 15 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2009 - 7 int - Sean Canfield 2010 - 11 int - Ryan Katz 2011 - 19 int - Ryan Katz/Sean Mannion 2012 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/Cody Vaz 2013 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/ Cody Vaz 2014 - 8 int - Sean Mannion Looking at this list, TA's int total should not surprising. These were all pro style qb's many of whom are in the NFL. I think we should get used to seeing double digit int's as long as Riley is coach. Especially with first year starters... Was just looking for these stats. Thanks for posting. So clearly not TA's fault, or at least not his sole fault. This is an average staff continuing a long trend. Personally, I would not have a problem seeing where things go, if people would quit blaming players. Then the player should quit throwing stupid interceptions. He thinks he has to make a play instead of throwing it away. Hopfully POB will put enough pressure on him to make him fear for his job. He might be inclined to make better decisions.So you are blaming the players for the INT's at Oregon State, but who recruited, developed, and called the plays for those QB's who threw all those INT's at Oregon Statw. The one constant in all of those INT riddled years is Riley. The qb at Oregon St threw 11 INT's this year, last year under Riley their qb threw 8, without Riley they increased 30%. Yup Riley's fault. That's a constant I guess. Ha! Freshman starter because Riley truly left a bare cupboard there. He would have been relying on a former walkon transfer if he'd stayed. Writing was on the wall at OSU. That staff got out while the getting was good. And it cuts the other way too. Only 8 picks, but how many wins? Maybe picks aren't the real problem Bo left the cupboard bare here as well, so what is your point? Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 If Bo left things bare...and Riley left them bare at OSU...why do you think he will recruit amazing players now? Quote Link to comment
KazLong Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 In defense of TA, I decided to look back at Riley's qb's over the years. I found some info that was surprising and a little troubling 2003 - 24 int - Derek Anderson 2004 - 17 int - Derek Anderson 2005 - 19 int - Matt Moore 2006 - 7 int - Matt Moore 2007 - 21 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2008 - 15 int - Sean Canfield/Lyle Moevao 2009 - 7 int - Sean Canfield 2010 - 11 int - Ryan Katz 2011 - 19 int - Ryan Katz/Sean Mannion 2012 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/Cody Vaz 2013 - 16 int - Sean Mannion/ Cody Vaz 2014 - 8 int - Sean Mannion Looking at this list, TA's int total should not surprising. These were all pro style qb's many of whom are in the NFL. I think we should get used to seeing double digit int's as long as Riley is coach. Especially with first year starters... Was just looking for these stats. Thanks for posting. So clearly not TA's fault, or at least not his sole fault. This is an average staff continuing a long trend. Personally, I would not have a problem seeing where things go, if people would quit blaming players. Then the player should quit throwing stupid interceptions. He thinks he has to make a play instead of throwing it away. Hopfully POB will put enough pressure on him to make him fear for his job. He might be inclined to make better decisions.So you are blaming the players for the INT's at Oregon State, but who recruited, developed, and called the plays for those QB's who threw all those INT's at Oregon Statw. The one constant in all of those INT riddled years is Riley. The qb at Oregon St threw 11 INT's this year, last year under Riley their qb threw 8, without Riley they increased 30%. Yup Riley's fault. That's a constant I guess. Ha! Freshman starter because Riley truly left a bare cupboard there. He would have been relying on a former walkon transfer if he'd stayed. Writing was on the wall at OSU. That staff got out while the getting was good. And it cuts the other way too. Only 8 picks, but how many wins? Maybe picks aren't the real problem Bo left the cupboard bare here as well, so what is your point? What NFL talent does Iowa have? How are they unbeaten. Without a miracle worker at QB. In fact current Iowa QB was the backup last year until they benched there starter who transfered to Michigan. God your straw men are so thin. Good teams find a way to win. Crap teams make excuses... If you were a real husker fan, you would regonize your arguments I saw play out with Callaclown. However your believe that Eric Crouch played for 'Oz' makes me question you that or you picked the worse time to join the band wagon. SPOILER for how things will turn out if we give him more time, like we did for old blue eyes who just needed the right guys, talent left bare etc etc etc If it continues to follow the Callaclown narrative, next year it will be the fans arent supporting the team, and that will be the beginning of the end. Hopefully who ever replaces Mr. Rogers does not continue that narrative like Bozo did. It will get worse before it gets better. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 If Bo left things bare...and Riley left them bare at OSU...why do you think he will recruit amazing players now? I will leave that for you to figure out. hint. its pretty simple. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 If Bo left things bare...and Riley left them bare at OSU...why do you think he will recruit amazing players now? I will leave that for you to figure out. hint. its pretty simple. Oh yeah, I remember now...Corvallis is Kosovo. Quote Link to comment
Stumpy1 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Do people realize that Langs is actually considered a very good QB coach? To use Armstrong as an example to undermine that is a joke. One of the hottest coaches that everyone is drooling over said he credits his QB coaching to what he learned from Langsdorf. Who's that? Tom Herman Not exactly what he said. As for Herman, he credits long-time Mike Riley assistant Danny Langsdorf, the current Nebraska OC/QB coach, for sharing his insight with him. "He was a young coach when I was playing at Cal Lutheran, and I knew [Langsdorf] well enough where I could really pick his brain after he spoke at a clinic at Oregon State on drills," Herman said. "I liked a lot of his drills. And I'll never forget he said, 'Always, always, always make your drills simulate what you're going to see in the game.' http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/houston-cougars-ohio-state-buckeyes-tom-herman-qb-guru-043015 Aren't facts a bitch? Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 What coach would NOT have drills that similuate what you see in a game? Quote Link to comment
HuskermanMike Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Maybe Tommy isn't a great QB because he is not that tall... He is 6 foot trying to throw behind 6'4 offensive lineman and that is hard to do. It would also explain why he throws better outside of the pocket.. Another reason could be he predetermines who he is throwing the ball to before he hikes the ball. So when he thinks Westy will be open he throws his way because he can't see. Besides this I don't know why Tommy threw this many picks during the year, but I don't know how we win 8 plus games next year throwing three pics a game. Quote Link to comment
Hunter94 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Do people realize that Langs is actually considered a very good QB coach? To use Armstrong as an example to undermine that is a joke. One of the hottest coaches that everyone is drooling over said he credits his QB coaching to what he learned from Langsdorf. Who's that? Tom Herman Not exactly what he said. As for Herman, he credits long-time Mike Riley assistant Danny Langsdorf, the current Nebraska OC/QB coach, for sharing his insight with him. "He was a young coach when I was playing at Cal Lutheran, and I knew [Langsdorf] well enough where I could really pick his brain after he spoke at a clinic at Oregon State on drills," Herman said. "I liked a lot of his drills. And I'll never forget he said, 'Always, always, always make your drills simulate what you're going to see in the game.' http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/houston-cougars-ohio-state-buckeyes-tom-herman-qb-guru-043015 Aren't facts a bitch? yeah, Langs is this and Langs did that.....and he keeps throwing in sh#t weather and allows TA to sling it off his back foot.....i know what we are seeing at NU and it ain't an accomplished coach. Quote Link to comment
RADAR Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Do people realize that Langs is actually considered a very good QB coach? To use Armstrong as an example to undermine that is a joke. One of the hottest coaches that everyone is drooling over said he credits his QB coaching to what he learned from Langsdorf. Who's that? Tom Herman Not exactly what he said. As for Herman, he credits long-time Mike Riley assistant Danny Langsdorf, the current Nebraska OC/QB coach, for sharing his insight with him. "He was a young coach when I was playing at Cal Lutheran, and I knew [Langsdorf] well enough where I could really pick his brain after he spoke at a clinic at Oregon State on drills," Herman said. "I liked a lot of his drills. And I'll never forget he said, 'Always, always, always make your drills simulate what you're going to see in the game.' http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/houston-cougars-ohio-state-buckeyes-tom-herman-qb-guru-043015 Aren't facts a bitch? yeah, Langs is this and Langs did that.....and he keeps throwing in sh#t weather and allows TA to sling it off his back foot.....i know what we are seeing at NU and it ain't an accomplished coach. Allows Tommy to sling it off his back foot?? He is not a puppet on a string. You might want to read what Langsdorf said about it after the game. Facts are a bitch! Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 RADAR...settle down...you are going to get banned again! 1 Quote Link to comment
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