Landlord Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The mistake was calling a deep pass on 3rd and 10 with a chance to get into FG range and win the game, instead of run routes towards the line to gain and hope to get a first down and set up a game winning FG. Nobody can say that we 'called' a deep pass on 3rd and 10. Crazy concept, sometimes route packages are designed to draw defenders away from other receivers, so occasionally, you'll have receivers running deep on plays where you aren't really planning on throwing it deep. We don't know what the actual playcall was - we only know that Tommy threw that deep ball. 2 Quote Link to comment
huskerdude171 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 We all need to watch this right now, its what we should have done Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I for one am certainly glad that Riley opts for strategic decision-making instead of the draw of macho-man tough guy fulfillment. Quote Link to comment
huskerdude171 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 I for one am certainly glad that Riley opts for strategic decision-making instead of the draw of macho-man tough guy fulfillment. Which is why Nebraska lost tonight, the bold are those who are rewarded Quote Link to comment
jsneb83 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I for one am certainly glad that Riley opts for strategic decision-making instead of the draw of macho-man tough guy fulfillment. Which is why Nebraska lost tonight, the bold are those who are rewarded We still had to punt, regardless on if there was 16 or 30 seconds left. We didn't score because we didn't execute enough to score. Playing to win or not to lose had nothing to with it. Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I for one am certainly glad that Riley opts for strategic decision-making instead of the draw of macho-man tough guy fulfillment. Which is why Nebraska lost tonight, the bold are those who are rewarded LMAO... how many times has he gone for it on 4th down this year? 1 Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 We all need to watch this right now, its what we should have done I agree. OTOH, didn't the Jets fire Herm Edwards? Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I don't mind how it was managed but also would have loved to get the FG attempt in regulation. but there was an opportunity to get points with a short field a few minutes earlier and couldn't capitalize so I'm putting it more on the offense not executing than game management in that situation because realistically it was the safest option after a certain point and after what happened last year maybe Riley decided to extend the game this time Quote Link to comment
RichS Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I agree with the OP, they played not to lose. That's Rileys mantra though, always has been. I'm a Charger fan, so I have seen this before, many, many times before from him. Quote Link to comment
84HuskerLaw Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On that note, if im nebraska i take the ball first in OT. Its harder playing comeback. Literally no one would do that... Uh, I would. I have always strongly disagreed with this 'logic' of deferring the choice in OT to have the ball last. The ONLY time I see it works to your advantage is IF the oppoent fails to score (which is not very often actually). Then it becomes easy to simply try to lay up for a good FG kick to win by 3. I think it depends on the game and how both teams match up. In last night's game, I would take the ball first if I am NU and we won the toss and could go on offense first. Why? because I would compare kickers. Obviously advantage Huskers last night as Badgers kicker missed both the game winning FG and his OT extra point kick. Assuming Huskers take the ball first and don't get a first down on our opening OT offensive series, just kick the almost autormatice 3 with Drew Brown. That 3 point lead becomes a serious concern to Wisconsin who then needs to be ultra careful not to blow their field goal option on their opening series. They become cautious playing again not to lose by laying up to get their best shot to match the field goal. Certainly they would like to make a TD but will call plays with the worry that if they do nothing else, they need to get a good FG shot for sure. I always prefer to play with the lead vs the deficit on the score. To me, the mental edge favors the team that is ahead. Any lead feels better than a deficit IMO. I think whoever takes the ball first in OT has the advantage because they are not playing from behind and any score puts pressure on the opponent as opposed to simply giving them some kind of heads up as to what they 'need' to do. Every team 'needs' to score a TD if they can or a FG if not because most teams with a good kicker will get 3. But not Wisconsin presumably. Quote Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On that note, if im nebraska i take the ball first in OT. Its harder playing comeback. Literally no one would do that... Uh, I would. I have always strongly disagreed with this 'logic' of deferring the choice in OT to have the ball last. The ONLY time I see it works to your advantage is IF the oppoent fails to score (which is not very often actually). Then it becomes easy to simply try to lay up for a good FG kick to win by 3. I think it depends on the game and how both teams match up. In last night's game, I would take the ball first if I am NU and we won the toss and could go on offense first. Why? because I would compare kickers. Obviously advantage Huskers last night as Badgers kicker missed both the game winning FG and his OT extra point kick. Assuming Huskers take the ball first and don't get a first down on our opening OT offensive series, just kick the almost autormatice 3 with Drew Brown. That 3 point lead becomes a serious concern to Wisconsin who then needs to be ultra careful not to blow their field goal option on their opening series. They become cautious playing again not to lose by laying up to get their best shot to match the field goal. Certainly they would like to make a TD but will call plays with the worry that if they do nothing else, they need to get a good FG shot for sure. I always prefer to play with the lead vs the deficit on the score. To me, the mental edge favors the team that is ahead. Any lead feels better than a deficit IMO. I think whoever takes the ball first in OT has the advantage because they are not playing from behind and any score puts pressure on the opponent as opposed to simply giving them some kind of heads up as to what they 'need' to do. Every team 'needs' to score a TD if they can or a FG if not because most teams with a good kicker will get 3. But not Wisconsin presumably. it would be good to see a statistic of which team typically wins in OT Quote Link to comment
3rd and long Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I can't imagine a situation where you would be better off not knowing exactly what you need to do. Since they implemented OT I wonder if any college team has chosen to go first. Quote Link to comment
AFhusker Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The mistake was calling a deep pass on 3rd and 10 with a chance to get into FG range and win the game, instead of run routes towards the line to gain and hope to get a first down and set up a game winning FG. Nobody can say that we 'called' a deep pass on 3rd and 10. Crazy concept, sometimes route packages are designed to draw defenders away from other receivers, so occasionally, you'll have receivers running deep on plays where you aren't really planning on throwing it deep. We don't know what the actual playcall was - we only know that Tommy threw that deep ball. You are correct, it is what TA does and people blame the OC for TA's decision making. And when TA takes that chance and connects it's a great play in spite of Lang's play calling, I think I see a trend here. Quote Link to comment
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