suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Yeah sorry. I get that people didn't think he was that great but he in fact was a solid back. I mean he only started 29 times yet still managed to rack up 4,214 all purpose yards. You can't slight that. Well I guess you could if you wanted. I can't. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. You mean Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong????? Square peg/round hole. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. You mean Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong????? Square peg/round hole. Last I checked, Riley didn't have those two guys when he coached at Oregon State, which is where these stats are from... Figured the years listed would too that off I thought you were referencing Nebraska. My bad. Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. You mean Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong????? Square peg/round hole. Last I checked, Riley didn't have those two guys when he coached at Oregon State, which is where these stats are from... Figured the years listed would too that off I thought you were referencing Nebraska. My bad. He also never coached Taylor Martinez. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. You mean Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong????? Square peg/round hole. Last I checked, Riley didn't have those two guys when he coached at Oregon State, which is where these stats are from... Figured the years listed would too that off I thought you were referencing Nebraska. My bad. He also never coached Taylor Martinez. Maybe he should have? Nah. Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. Is that 143 yards in 2011 a typo?? Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. You mean Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong????? Square peg/round hole. Last I checked, Riley didn't have those two guys when he coached at Oregon State, which is where these stats are from... Figured the years listed would too that off I thought you were referencing Nebraska. My bad. He also never coached Taylor Martinez. Don't quit your day job. What? Implying I am trying to be funny? I stated a fact. Who pissed in your cornflakes? 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No 1,000 yard rusher in the Riley era so far and it's highly highly doubtful we will not have one this season either. I think anytime a rb rushes for 1,000 yards one could argue that he is a pretty good running back. This thread is just another reminder that we are going in the opposite direction as far as having 1,000 yard rushers. Now we have the possible 1,000 yard receiver to look forward to I guess? Personally give me a 1,000 yard rusher any day of the week. 2014 - 472 pass (3305 yards), 376 rush (1417 yards)(RB committee) - 56% pass to 44% run 2013 - 625 pass (4844 yards), 355 rush (1227 yards) (RB committee) - 64% pass to 36% run 2012 - 504 pass (3992 yards), 442 rush (1617 yards) (Storm Barrs Woods almost 1k) - 53% pass to 47% run 2011 - 503 pass (3441 yards), 318 rush (143 yards) (RB committee) - 61% pass to 39% run 2010 - 375 pass (2483 yards), 384 rush (1435 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1184) - 49% pass to 51% run 2009 - 478 pass (3520 yards), 440 rush (1818 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1440) - 52% pass to 48% run 2008 - 448 pass (3237 yards), 487 rush (2055 yards) (Jacquizz Rodgers 1253) - 48% pass to 52% run 2007 - 438 pass (2557 yards), 541 rush (2274 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1214) - 45% pass to 55% run 2006 - 425 pass (3393 yards), 474 rush (1655 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1307) - 47% pass to 53% run 2005 - 459 pass (3261 yards), 415 rush (1348 yards) (Yvenson Bernard 1321) - 52% pass to 48% run 4 out of 10 seasons they ran more than they passed (2006, 2007, 2008, 2010). In those seasons, they had a bell cow running back that they stuck behind who was talented enough to rush for over 1k yards. When they didn't have this, they passed more...but only slightly more. They passed a heckuva lot more when they had a great QB and good receivers in later years. Is that 143 yards in 2011 a typo?? Probably... Copy and paste sucks on a phone Ya, it looks like 1043. Not great but loads better. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I think Marlon Lucky was a little better than a lot of people remember or are giving him credit for in this thread. He did catch 75 passes his junior season so he was a threat out of the backfield also. Not the greatest rb ever obviously at Nebraska but he was a solid back. Second team All Big 12 his junior year and he was later signed by the Bengals. His line that he ran behind also was not the greatest by far in Nebraska history either. The only notable there being Matt Slauson. His 1,019 yards rushing his junior season was the first 1,000 rushing season by a Husker in 3 years at the time. Watch that video again and look at how many of the clips were against pretty bad teams. Reality is, Marlon was a good back that got more carries and attention than he deserved because of his hype. He was the second best back on the team 3 out of his 4 years, and even though he was the 'starter' at the beginning of 2006 and 2008, it became apparent pretty quick that Brandon Jackson and a young Roy Helu Jr., both who actually played and contributed in the NFL, were better backs without the pedigree going in. 2 Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I think Marlon Lucky was a little better than a lot of people remember or are giving him credit for in this thread. He did catch 75 passes his junior season so he was a threat out of the backfield also. Not the greatest rb ever obviously at Nebraska but he was a solid back. Second team All Big 12 his junior year and he was later signed by the Bengals. His line that he ran behind also was not the greatest by far in Nebraska history either. The only notable there being Matt Slauson. His 1,019 yards rushing his junior season was the first 1,000 rushing season by a Husker in 3 years at the time. Watch that video again and look at how many of the clips were against pretty bad teams. Reality is, Marlon was a good back that got more carries and attention than he deserved because of his hype. He was the second best back on the team 3 out of his 4 years, and even though he was the 'starter' at the beginning of 2006 and 2008, it became apparent pretty quick that Brandon Jackson and a young Roy Helu Jr., both who actually played and contributed in the NFL, were better backs without the pedigree going in. Are you serious with this argument???!!!! How many 'bad' teams has any running back for Nebraska or any other team for that matter faced??????!!!!!!! You're reaching and I've never been a Marlon Lucky apologist but he most definitely wasn't as bad a running back as some of the posts in this thread make him out to be. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I mean, his 2007 wasn't that good, either on the ground. 1000 is nice, but rather ordinary, and plus 233 of them came in the opener against a Nevada team missing their one good player on defense. He was supplanted in 2006 and 2008. So I think he's remembered, appropriately, as this pretty mediocre or No. 2 type rusher who was fairly solid in the passing game without being electrifying there either. But usually, when we talk about Lucky we talk about how the expectations were so high for him and how he was still a pretty solid player anyway. I think Newby's remembered in a fairly similar way. Maybe that's a good comparison. They're OK but it's never a great year when your top option isn't a more determined runner, like (hopefully) Tre will turn out to be. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just out of curiosity, has a team won the MNC without having a 1000 yard rusher? I'm an old school NU fan. I like us to win and run the ball. In that order. Unsure if we can win at the level we want without a dominant runner...... Nothing more demoralizing than to have a team grind it out. Conversely, nothing worse than not being able to get those 3rd and short on the ground..... Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I mean, his 2007 wasn't that good, either on the ground. 1000 is nice, but rather ordinary, and plus 233 of them came in the opener against a Nevada team missing their one good player on defense. He was supplanted in 2006 and 2008. So I think he's remembered, appropriately, as this pretty mediocre or No. 2 type rusher who was fairly solid in the passing game without being electrifying there either. But usually, when we talk about Lucky we talk about how the expectations were so high for him and how he was still a pretty solid player anyway. I think Newby's remembered in a fairly similar way. Maybe that's a good comparison. I'll remember Lucky for leading RB's in receptions one year. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just from watching that video you can see that the guy had ability. Also 4,214 yards in 29 starts kind of speaks for itself also but to each their own... Quote Link to comment
wiuhusker Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just out of curiosity, has a team won the MNC without having a 1000 yard rusher? I'm an old school NU fan. I like us to win and run the ball. In that order. Unsure if we can win at the level we want without a dominant runner...... Nothing more demoralizing than to have a team grind it out. Conversely, nothing worse than not being able to get those 3rd and short on the ground..... I think you can win at a high level without a completely dominant back. It all starts up front for me. Doesn't matter how good your back is if doesn't have anywhere to run. Once we get back to having a great O-line I think things will sort themselves out elsewhere. Riley has said multiple times he wants to be a good run team but that's hard to do with mediocre line play. Quote Link to comment
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