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The Biden / Ukraine Scandal


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4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

The Mueller investigation had probable cause for believing the president obstructed justice. Whats the probable cause on biden and what crime should he be under investigation for?

I'd like some facts this time @Apsu

 

I missed that probable cause, to me it appeared as fishing since day one.

The entirity of Russiagate was a load of carp.

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Just now, Nebfanatic said:

Not a crime and frankly not on Biden whatsoever. So what did Biden do that was criminal or corrupt?

 

I suspected that what happened was not legal, but given the geopolitical reality realized that nothing would happen.

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3 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

I'm not name calling. You are acting childish in your posts. Lets see some factual information because the fact is Trump fired Comey over the Flynn investigation and that is coming from Trump himself. That is probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. What is the potential crime Biden committed and where is the probable cause for an investigation?

 

Factual information is a casualty.

Flynn was the only person that Trump appointed who I liked, the first fired in the Russiagate witch hunt, and i believe now he may have been cleared of wrong doing.

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4 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

For someone whose interest is mild, you're about single-handedly keeping this thread going. :D

 

The information on all of this is not hard to find. It's literally as difficult as going to the OP in this thread and dragging your eyes across a few articles.  Failing that, do a simple google search. I did it several times in the first few pages of this thread.

 

Slow news day.

Rather talk about the state of the football program?

... me neither.

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3 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

Factual information is a casualty.

Flynn was the only person that Trump appointed who I liked, the first fired in the Russiagate witch hunt, and i believe now he may have been cleared of wrong doing.

He pleaded guilty so how was he cleared of wrongdoing? The fact is Trump admitted to firing Comey because of this. Whether you like it or not that is probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. You STILL haven't given me the potential crime or the probable cause that would warrent an investigation into Biden

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32 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

What's your chosen side?

 

27 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

Right now that would be Democratic Socialism.

 

7 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

 

The entirity of Russiagate was a load of carp.

 

4 minutes ago, Apsu said:

Flynn was the only person that Trump appointed who I liked, the first fired in the Russiagate witch hunt, and i believe now he may have been cleared of wrong doing.

 

 

 

A lot of this doesn't jive.

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2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

He pleaded guilty so how was he cleared of wrongdoing? The fact is Trump admitted to firing Comey because of this. Whether you like it or not that is probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. You STILL haven't given me the potential crime or the probable cause that would warrent an investigation into Biden

 

Confessions happen for many reasons, often as part of a larger deal.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/10/michael-flynn-defense-alleges-doj-cover-up-russia-investigation/1545599001/

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Just now, Apsu said:

That doesn't matter. Flynn was under investigation, Trump fired Comey because of it and that is called probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. Still waiting on an example of such for Biden, the subject of this conversation

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7 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

Slow news day.

Rather talk about the state of the football program?

... me neither.

 

Well, we did get the Botham Jean verdict, so there's that in the news today.   I'm actually surprised by the verdict.

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6 minutes ago, knapplc said:

A lot of this doesn't jive.

 

As a progressive, Russiagate had three main objectives:

1) Make an excuse as to why Hillary lost, to justify not fixing the DNC.

2) To start a new cold war with Russia, which we now have.

3) To justify the censorship of alternative media.

 

Sanders has not said much about Russiagate, just enough to keep him in the good graces of the DNC so they don't blackball his candidacy.

Michal Flynn was anti-war, which would have made him a good National Security Advisor.


Does it jive now?

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4 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

That doesn't matter. Flynn was under investigation, Trump fired Comey because of it and that is called probable cause for an investigation into obstruction of justice. Still waiting on an example of such for Biden, the subject of this conversation

 

Still waiting on the investigation, but you knew that.

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1 minute ago, Apsu said:

 

As a progressive, Russiagate had three main objectives:

1) Make an excuse as to why Hillary lost, to justify not fixing the DNC.

2) To start a new cold war with Russia, which we now have.

3) To justify the censorship of alternative media.

 

Sanders has not said much about Russiagate, just enough to keep him in the good graces of the DNC so they don't blackball his candidacy.

Michal Flynn was anti-war, which would have made him a good National Security Advisor.

 

Does it jive now?


lol wut? 

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1 minute ago, Apsu said:

 

As a progressive, Russiagate had three main objectives:

1) Make an excuse as to why Hillary lost, to justify not fixing the DNC.

2) To start a new cold war with Russia, which we now have.

3) To justify the censorship of alternative media.

 

Sanders has not said much about Russiagate, just enough to keep him in the good graces of the DNC so they don't blackball his candidacy.

Michal Flynn was anti-war, which would have made him a good National Security Advisor.

 

Does it jive now?

 

Still waiting on the investigation, but you knew that.

What is the probable cause to warrent an investigation in the first place???

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1 minute ago, Apsu said:

 

As a progressive, Russiagate had three main objectives:

1) Make an excuse as to why Hillary lost, to justify not fixing the DNC.

2) To start a new cold war with Russia, which we now have.

3) To justify the censorship of alternative media.

 

Sanders has not said much about Russiagate, just enough to keep him in the good graces of the DNC so they don't blackball his candidacy.

Michal Flynn was anti-war, which would have made him a good National Security Advisor.

 

Literally none of this is true, and these are not tenets of Democratic thinking.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Apsu said:

 

Does it jive now?
 

 

No.

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1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

What is the probable cause to warrent an investigation in the first place???

 

Asking the same question over and over again will not get you an answer that you will be happy with.

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