RedDenver Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 39 minutes ago, teachercd said: So what will be the way around this? Some old dial up modem that is routed through some other country? This stinks... There's no way around this unless you own a backbone connection to the internet. The hope is that some ISP will stick with the old net neutrality rules in order to get customers, but even that is unlikely as the vast majority of the physical cables are owned by the companies that spent money to repeal net neutrality. Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, RedDenver said: There's no way around this unless you own a backbone connection to the internet. The hope is that some ISP will stick with the old net neutrality rules in order to get customers, but even that is unlikely as the vast majority of the physical cables are owned by the companies that spent money to repeal net neutrality. Okay, that is sort of what I was thinking...like when cell phones first came out...the prices were all over the place, high/low/middle...then they clearly all colluded and made prices that are all similar. Maybe there will be a "cheap" service. Link to comment
RedDenver Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, teachercd said: Okay, that is sort of what I was thinking...like when cell phones first came out...the prices were all over the place, high/low/middle...then they clearly all colluded and made prices that are all similar. Maybe there will be a "cheap" service. The truly insidious part of this is that the ISP's can coerce the content providers (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, Huskerboard, etc.) to pay to keep the ISP from throttling bandwidth to their site. So the ISP's can both drive up your cost AND the cost of the websites/services you use. Edited December 14, 2017 by RedDenver Link to comment
teachercd Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 My homeroom just had a freak out about this...two girls actually almost got in each others faces lost it. Link to comment
GM_Tood Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, RedDenver said: The truly insidious part of this is that the ISP's can coerce the content providers (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, Huskerboard, etc.) to pay to keep the ISP from throttling bandwidth to their site. So the ISP's can both drive up your cost AND the cost of the websites/services you use. Like they were doing pre-NN internet 2014? Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, GM_Tood said: Like they were doing pre-NN internet 2014? Show your work, please. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, GM_Tood said: Like they were doing pre-NN internet 2014? Yes, the entire reason for the net neutrality rules is what the ISP's started to do. And you can go look at other countries without net neutrality rules to see that these issues do occur. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/14/16692318/net-neutrality-local-loop-broadband-internet-access http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2017/12/what_the_internet_is_like_in_countries_without_net_neutrality.html 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 This fight is still not over. There will be bills in congress, and I imagine someone will figure out a constitutional objection. All of these ignorant #MAGA fools are going to find out how fun it is to support Trump when it hits them square in the pocketbook. The only problem I have is that it's going to cost the sane people, too. 1 Link to comment
MLB 51 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, knapplc said: This fight is still not over. There will be bills in congress, and I imagine someone will figure out a constitutional objection. All of these ignorant #MAGA fools are going to find out how fun it is to support Trump when it hits them square in the pocketbook. The only problem I have is that it's going to cost the sane people, too. You can use the money you save from those new tax cuts. Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The woeful ignorance that leads people to imagine Net Neutrality was a concept invented by Obama and implemented in 2014 is how we get to a point like today. 3 Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, knapplc said: "Ctrl + F: Nebraska 0 of 0 results found" Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, Cdog923 said: "Ctrl + F: Nebraska 0 of 0 results found" For as much as Nebraskans like to make fun of Iowa, they're far more enlightened when it comes to things like this. Gay marriage, medical marijuana, now net neutrality... they're far better than we are with things that affect everyday American's lives. 4 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, GM_Tood said: Like they were doing pre-NN internet 2014? The internet is a much different animal now than in 2014. That's almost 4 years ago. That's a millennium in technology. Let me ask you this. Why do you support this move? I am honestly open to the argument from the other side. I just don't understand what that other side is and would like it explained to me. How was this regulation detrimental. Edited December 14, 2017 by BigRedBuster Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, knapplc said: For as much as Nebraskans like to make fun of Iowa, they're far more enlightened when it comes to things like this. Gay marriage, medical marijuana, now net neutrality... they're far better than we are with things that affect everyday American's lives. After living there 15 years and then moving back, I can agree with this. Link to comment
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