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After reading what Lubick said, does anyone think there's a chance Frost is just playing with the media right now? If one really thinks about it, both could be right. Let's say they had two play sheets. One was for an odd front and one was for an even front. Frost was exactly right that 50% of the play sheets got thrown out the window when Illinois came out in an even front.

To some degree, I do believe you can blame the coaches for the mistakes. While I haven't seen a single practice and am not in the locker room, it appears to me that the players are under a considerable amount of stress/pressure which causes them to do dumb things. I was the punt returner in both junior high and high school. If I would have fielded a punt at the one yard line even in junior high, I would have been riding the pine the rest of the game. These players aren't stupid. They have played a lot of football in their lives. We're not talking prop. 48 players with a second grade reading level like back in the day. A lot of these mistakes remind me of my 16 year old daughter driving in a Walmart parking lot. The louder I scream and the more I yell when she nearly hits someone, the more she clams up and reminds me of a five year old at the county fair driving a bumper car. She gets rattled and makes one big mistake after another. Dads shouldn't teach daughters how to drive. I watched a big chunk of the game last night, and I agree with the posters who said we looked extremely tight out there. The coaches jobs are not only to teach them but to also keep them loose and relaxed. I didn't see a loose and relaxed team out there. Their play reminded me an awful lot of a Bo coached team playing the likes of Wisconsin in the 2012 B1G Championship game and many other Bo coached big games. When people say the team isn't buying into what Frost is selling, I don't agree. I think they are so bought into the program that they're feeling as much if not more pressure than he does to win.

Is this a destination job? I see names brought up of coaches that have built up programs and then bolted for a better gig. What makes us think this won't happen here? I get the money aspect, but there's a lot of places paying as much and more than UNL. I think we all know who the top 10-15 schools are out there. What keeps a coach here after he's built the program back up? What makes us believe this program isn't a stepping stone job?

The true Nebraska way is to give him one more year after this. He then has a winning record. That's when we lower the boom and fire him.

Ok, so what came first the chicken or the egg? Did Frost make what Milton would become? Or, did Milton make Frost look better than he actually is? IMO, the offense has two big problems. First, we don't have the road graders up to open holes and keep guys off the QB. Second, the entire success and failure of a play rests almost entirely on the QB.

Joe Ganz was recruited by that DC everyone wants to bag on not named Diaco. Ganz was so well thought of that we brought in Keller. I'm not saying Ganz wasn't a decent QB, but let's be honest he had his flaws or have you forgot about the 07' game against KU? We do get some pretty decent athletes which is why we are usually rated in the top 25 for recruiting classes. However, we do not get top rated QBs. It would appear to me that we have two options. Option one is getting top rated QBs. Option two is changing the offense so that it doesn't revolve around the QB. Getting top rated QBs is like finding a unicorn. In the last 20 years, I would say we have really only had one unicorn and that was Suh and he didn't play QB. The offense needs to change. We need to be in a position like Illinois was Saturday where if the starting QB goes down we can bring in our backup and be successful.

Riddle me this, who exactly have we recruited since Crouch would you consider good? Arguably the best recruiting head coach we've had in the last two decades couldn't even recruit a stud QB which is why he took two transfers. We seem to always get athletic QBs who may get plenty of offers but it's usually for a different position.

I'm surprised UNL hasn't made it mandatory yet considering some of the smaller Nebraska colleges have. It's a little concerning watching what is happening in Israel where the Pfizer vaccine is only 39% effective against the Delta variant. For those of you going to the games, be careful out there.

Considering our quality of play in recent history, being stuck in a lower tier conference might not be all bad. Recruiting could become interesting. If the SEC locks down the Southeast and the state of Texas, this leaves an awful lot of schools fighting for the Northern and California players. Parity in college football remains a myth with regards to the top programs. It seems it's the same teams year after year in the playoff. I fail to see how this changes.

How many times have we been told the program is in good hands? The boosters and the donors are almost directly responsible for the state of the program.

I think you have your tinfoil hat on just a litte bit too tight. The top brass as you call them are almost fully responsible for the state of Nebraska football. If any of what you just posted happens, I've gotta say I will gladly hand in my fan card.

There might be a lot of whining and complaining when OU and Texas get into the SEC from Mizzou and A&M, but at the end of the day they're not leaving the SEC. Six of the last ten NCs have been won by the SEC. A&M isn't paying Jimbo what they're paying him without expecting to be in the hunt. The best hunting grounds for NCs is in the SEC.

While there is some merit with the bolded, there are also a lot of other factors involved. I'm from Benkelman. I know the Sanford kid and his family. He has a lot going for him in terms of work ethic (he's a workout warrior) and intelligence. Unfortunately, he may never play much. First of all, I think a lot of people don't really understand the jump from 8 man high school football out here in the middle of podunk and 11 man D1 big boy football. He has a lot of catching up to do in terms of skill and development. He has great speed, but I'm not sure he has the swiveling hips so to speak to play corner. At his size, the only logical position is safety. Another thing to consider when you see someone from this end of the state from a small school go to Lincoln is just how much can one's body take. There are not a lot of great athletes out here. When a school gets one, they pretty much ride this horse to death. One of his best events in track was pole vault. Because of a messed up shoulder, I don't even think he got to compete in this event his junior or senior year in high school. I believe he had a surgery or two after he completed high school which kept him from playing football his freshman year at Hastings College. We're all rooting for him and hope he's the exception rather than the rule. I've seen some great athletes from around here go to Lincoln only to never play. We sent an outstanding prospect back in 98'. In fact, it was his school records that Sanford broke. The biggest difference between the two was this kid was 6'3 and weighed 250. His junior year I believe he finished third in the strength and conditioning tests. His senior year I believe he finished first and had the fastest 10 yard dash time on the team. The only time I remember him playing was the 2000 season when he was a redshirt sophomore. He played special teams until after the Notre Dame game. After Notre Dame scored on both a kickoff return and a punt return, I don't remember his ever seeing the field again. A guy I knew who finished his career at Nebraska on the 87' team once told me that just about everyone that is on the team whether they're scholarship players or walk-ons have a window of opportunity. He said it's just some players window is much smaller than others. An injury here or a mess up there can lead to one never seeing the field again. At the end of the day, I haven't figured out if it's impressive or scary that a kid from southwest Nebraska that played 8 man class D football is one of if not the best athlete in terms of the strength and conditioning tests on the team.

A lot of good points brought up. However, I believe forming the Big 12 is what led to the dismantling of the Husker dynasty. I also believe it led to TO's early retirement. He was playing against a stacked deck and knew it. I know bagging on Solich is the cool thing to do, but it doesn't make it correct. Ohio hadn't been to a bowl since 1968. Solich took Ohio to a bowl game in his second season. He's taken Ohio to 11 bowls in 15 seasons. He's the winningest coach in MAC history. Three times he's been the conference coach of the year. He was a Home Depot coach of the year. He was the last coach to get us a conference championship. After years of thinking about what has transpired, I have to admit my thoughts have changed. At one time, I blamed Pederson for our ills. However, it wasn't his fault at all. $ Byrne left because he didn't want to be the AD to fire Solich. Pederson's hands were tied. He was hired to fire Solich. There's not a snowballs chance Callahan was even remotely in his top three for a replacement. This is why it's difficult to blame either how that turned out. It's hard to fault Callahan considering he was without a job. It's hard to fault Pederson considering everyone else on the list turned him down. The Frost era hasn't exactly started out with a bang. We don't know how it will turn out. It will be very interesting to see if we've learned anything from the last two decades in the next two seasons.

What possible criteria must one be using in order to make the bolded statement? There really is no point in using any record from Wisconsin considering he was merely a puppet for puppet master Barry. 29-34 was the record at Arkansas. Lovie meanwhile had a record of 81-63 at the Bears, made it to the Super Bowl, and made the NFC Championship game three times in nine seasons.

To the bolded: he didn't have any choice. The majority of the rule changes in the last two decades or so have heavily favored the offense. Aggressive in-your-face defense more times than not draws both a flag and an ejection these days. Saban learned he couldn't win it all with his defense. You don't just stop offenses any longer. At best, you try to slow them down. He had to change philosophies and build an offense that could out score anyone knowing his defense couldn't control the outcome of games. The best outcome for a defense in todays college football isn't stopping the offense. It's creating turnovers. It's creating mistakes. Even when our offense is rolling, we're pretty difficult to stop. It's the mistakes we make that kill us. This is about the best a defense can do with the current rules.

We were transitioning to the spread before Solich was fired. This is why he hired Barney Cotton to be his offensive coordinator heading into the 03' season. It was also the reason we recruited Joe Dailey. He was a different type athlete than what we had previously recruited at QB. Cotton was supposed to bring his New Mexico State "Barney" ball with him spreading the ball around both with the pass and the run. Unfortunately, his one and only year to implement the spread was handicapped by Jamal Lord's lack of passing skills.

If BP would have won some games that mattered and not got blown out at times, he would still be here regardless of being such a d!(k. I have no idea if Solich and Pud got along as underlings. If what you say is correct, it explains a lot with regards to Nebraska football the last couple of decades. Solich became head coach because of TO. Pud was hired as AD because he came highly recommended by TO. Do you honestly believe TO would have recommended Pud as AD if he didn't get along with Solich?

I understand where you are coming from with regards to his retirement affecting Wisconsin and Nebraska. However, there's a lot more to the B1G than Nebraska and Wisconsin. I'm just not getting how his retirement has much affect on the B1G in general.

At Nebraska, that type of consistency gets you fired.

How well did they know him? He was from Omaha. His girlfriend lived in the apartment across from mine one summer is how I got to know him. The one thing that always stood out to me was his size. He was listed as 6'1, but he was a bit taller than that. His speed is what always fascinated me. If memory serves me right, he was the fastest guy on the team. Most of the time, he found himself in TO's doghouse which probably explains his lack of playing time. He didn't take things very seriously which apparently didn't do him any favors with the coaches. I get that a lot of his carries were in garbage time, but he did average right around 7 yards a carry. If only we had a guy with his size and his speed on the current roster.

^^^^^^^^ I've got to admit, this made me laugh. If we come out and play like we did against Minnesota last year, we'd lose to Hellen Keller's School of the Deaf and Blind.

I agree with his retiring having a major impact on Wisconsin. However, I'm not sure I follow the logic in having a major impact on the B1G. I realize he threw his weight around bending things in Wisconsin's favor with the B1G brass, but at the end of the day it probably didn't have much of an impact on most of the B1G especially the Ohio State's and such.

Do you really believe the first three years went according to Frost's blueprint? If so, I have some ocean front property here in southwest Nebraska for sale.

While I agree that Frost will not be removed based on this season, I do have a bit of a problem with the bolded listed teams. Michigan just came off of a 2-4 year in 2020. It was speculated Harbaugh could be replaced as coach. They did fire their defensive coordinator. They are nowhere to be found in the preseason top 25. Wisconsin did finish the 2020 year 4-3. They also lost to every team they played that was ranked in the top 25. Wisconsin's biggest problem in 2020 was the inability to score. While they are a preseason top 25 pick, where exactly is their offense going to come from? Minnesota finished 2020 at 3-4. They only played one ranked team all year. They are nowhere to be found in the preseason top 25. Iowa might be the one outlier of the bolded teams, but are they really? While they did finish the 2020 season at 6-2, they didn't play a singe team ranked in the top 25. They are a preseason top 25 team heading into 2021, but there might be a tad bit much emphasis placed on how they did in 2020 when they played exactly no one. We have two elite teams on the 2021 schedule. We might very well lose to every single bolded team on the list. However, let's not make the bolded teams out to be World Beaters. We may never get back to the status of an Ohio State or an OU. It should be more than expected to get to the level of the bolded teams.