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No, you're right. Very little if any tuition pays for the football team or its stadium DIRECTLY.

 

However, I have this funny feeling that if there were no students paying tuition, there would be no school and therefore, no football program. Students are the center of the school, athletics, and any other extra-curricular activities...not ticket holders to a football game.

 

That is where you are mistaken. It has been 30 years or more since students have been the center of the football team.

 

Still, why is it so wrong to try and accomodate students (who may or may not want to be rowdy) and also accomodate other fans (many of whom are alums and people who actually give money to the football team) who want (or need as another poster pointed out) to watch the game from their seats? Just because students do something one way doesn't mean that is the right or only way to do it. How about if we show everyone else a little respect?

 

Hmmm... I have a few things to say to that.

 

1) Without the students attending UNL paying tuition, fees, books, and whatever bullcrap charges the university can charge them for, there WOULD BE NO UNIVERSITY. To simplify: no students = no reason to have a University. On a similar tangent, to say that students are not the center of the football program is a joke. Last time I checked the athletes on the Husker football team were students. I don't think it gets much more center than that.

 

2) Since when does going to a football game resemble a tennis match? Seriously. Maybe everyone should just sit down and politely clap when a TD is scored (not too loudly though, wouldn't want to upset anyone with the decibel level).

 

I understand that at times people are annoying at the games. But it happens. That's part of going to see a live football game; you never know if you will actually be able to see the game. I have gone to a few and just about everytime my view is obstructed so I don't get to see 100% of the game. Does that mean I should complain about the old people that wouldn't sit down and get them moved to a different location so I can see? I guess it does.

 

That's why I don't have season tickets, because I want to be able to watch it in the comfort of my home where no one is blocking my view. Did the Huskers' attendance suffer because I wasn't there? Hell no it didn't. Am I going to complain that I can't go to a live game because people stand up in front of me? No, I will just watch the game at home. Trust me, if all of these people who complained give up their seats as if to make a stand, they will be very sad to see when their seats are taken by someone else happy to be at the game.

 

3) Just because non-students do something one way, does not mean that is the right or only way to do it.

 

4) If you think the moving of the students is due to anything other than to make a little more money, you are sadly mistaken.

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If they don't want people to be sitting behind them, put the students to the right of the band in the east stadium so they use the whole section for the students. Makes sense to me.

 

 

They do use the furthest south section in east stadium for students only. Its the south stadium near the top where they are having "problems" the student section does not go all the way up in that corner section. Its the season ticket holders at the top that are being moved.

 

Yeah, and instead of sticking them there, put them on the east side on the other side of the band. East side only goes up to row 50 or so, would be no one sitting behind them complaining. I think it is sh**ty to move the students further away from the field. I am not aware of many schools that do this.

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:wtf

 

This is really a joke right...like maybe Pederson is behind this...it was in the works before he left? That is how stupid this whole thing is. Osborne is into keeping the people of Nebraska central to the University, he better reconsider this decision, because I would have sworn it would have came from Pederson, not Osborne.

 

I have sat in the student section in the North end zone, and there are a lot of those seats that aren't students. The students sell their tickets for extra grocery money, so it is not only students that are in that section, but older fans, including retirees that can't afford any other seats.

 

The more I have thought about this, the more I am convinced that there is money behind this issue. Count on it, 2009 will bring a rise in seat prices, especially to the people that get the tickets that used to be the student section...the university will take the logic that those people improved on their seats, so they will have to pay more. Like I said, count on it.

 

:bang

I did just hear on 1620 that Pederson did get the process started for this. But it is being finalized by TO. Bad idea.

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Inconvenience the Visiting section not our student section and regular crowd... this is so absolutely frickin' stupid!!!

 

Good call on that. Can we fit our visitor's section any higher up? Like maybe on a blimp that circles the stadium?

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If they don't want people to be sitting behind them, put the students to the right of the band in the east stadium so they use the whole section for the students. Makes sense to me.

 

 

They do use the furthest south section in east stadium for students only. Its the south stadium near the top where they are having "problems" the student section does not go all the way up in that corner section. Its the season ticket holders at the top that are being moved.

 

Yeah, and instead of sticking them there, put them on the east side on the other side of the band. East side only goes up to row 50 or so, would be no one sitting behind them complaining. I think it is sh**ty to move the students further away from the field. I am not aware of many schools that do this.

 

I see what youre saying and totally agree with you 100% Our students at the least should be at least seated together as a "section" rather then patches around the stadium.

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I am no longer a student, but I think this is absolutely the most rediculus idea Tom Osborne has ever had. I agree that we should make accomadations for older patrons who cannot stand the entire game, but there are a ton of solutions that dont involve further marginalizing student participation. Alumni, including me, owe the University a debt, not the other way around. The University, and hence the football team that represents it, and happens to be comprised of students, does not exist for the alumni. Its exists for and because of the current students at the University. It is a huge reason that many people go to the University rather than to smaller private or other public schools, even though those schools may have better academic programs. Why not move them to the right of the band? or why not place some steps and guard rails up in south stadium to raise the level of the seats behind the student section? Both are very easy to do and would greatly help both the season ticket holders and the students. Think outside your once inch fing box once in a while Tom.

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I am no longer a student, but I think this is absolutely the most rediculus idea Tom Osborne has ever had. I agree that we should make accomadations for older patrons who cannot stand the entire game, but there are a ton of solutions that dont involve further marginalizing student participation. Alumni, including me, owe the University a debt, not the other way around. The University, and hence the football team that represents it, and happens to be comprised of students, does not exist for the alumni. Its exists for and because of the current students at the University. It is a huge reason that many people go to the University rather than to smaller private or other public schools, even though those schools may have better academic programs. Why not move them to the right of the band? or why not place some steps and guard rails up in south stadium to raise the level of the seats behind the student section? Both are very easy to do and would greatly help both the season ticket holders and the students. Think outside your once inch fing box once in a while Tom.

Again it was Pederson's idea. But TO should have stopped it.

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As a student at UNL, I thought I'd share this email with you folks. It was sent this afternoon by the Athletic Department.

 

Dear Cornhusker Students,

 

First and foremost, thank you for supporting our football team. As we await the start of spring football, I hope this finds you well and looking forward to the April 19 Spring Game. As promised, we have been searching for a solution to the problems occurring in sections 12, 13, 14 and 15 in the South Stadium as well as overcrowding in the East Stadium. As you are well aware as a student season ticket holder in 2007, we have had increased conflict between our students, season ticket holders, security and event staff members. Concerns have escalated over the past few years and have caused unsafe situations for students and season ticket holders.

 

With assistance from ASUN, who submitted two new seating options to the Athletic Department and to the Fan Behavior Group last fall, the Athletic Department has approved the implementation of Option 1 (general admission seating, preference for upperclassmen in the East and elimination of block seating) for the 2008 football season with one addition—student seating will extend to the top of the South Stadium, just as it currently does in the East Stadium. In return for your movement, UNL student ticket holders of the future will receive additional student tickets in the total allotment; preferences for juniors and seniors and potentially some sophomores in the preferred East Stadium; general admission seating in both the East and South Stadiums which will reward those who come early and more accurately reflect the current seating practices; and a guarantee of no increase in student ticket prices over the next four years (2008-2011). We hope you will support this solution.

 

The Athletic Department will begin the process of relocating season ticket holders out of the upper sections of 12, 13 and 14. The student seating will now extend to the top of sections 12, 13 and 14 and will no longer be located in section 15. While I know there are concerns that students are losing lower seats in parts of section 14, I feel compelled to alert you that regardless of where the student section begins in Section 14, the lowest rows of this section will continue to be reserved for non-traditional students, student-athletes and Husker recruits on official visits. Therefore, the general student body is not losing these closest-to-the-field seats in those sections. While block seating that previously occurred during signup will no longer be in effect (per ASUN Option #1), those students who come together can sit together, much like the current practice. The Athletic Department will provide wristbands for those students with preferred seating in the East Stadium, to protect students from overcrowding. Those who prefer to sit with underclassmen may still do so in the South Stadium by indicating that preference upon signup.

 

I can assure you that moving students up in the South Stadium will not produce a financial windfall for the Athletic Department. Fans who are moved to lower sections will not be required to pay more. Also, the higher one sits, the better the view of the entire playing field. I sit high in the North Stadium and see the game much better than those in the lower rows.

 

In April, we will have season ticket signup by class status, with seniors allowed to sign up first and to pick their seating preference (April 7-9), followed by juniors (April 10-12), sophomores (April 13-15) and freshmen (April 16 and beyond). We are confident the preferential opportunity for upperclassmen to sit in the East Stadium (who with the previous lottery system may never have received that chance), the increase in the total allotment of student tickets, decreased conflict with security, event staff and season ticket holders and the guarantee of no price increase through 2011 will meet with your approval.

 

We appreciate the leaders of ASUN, who over the past few years have provided their time and expertise in solving these difficult issues that have been prevalent for decades. We appreciate your continued support of the Cornhusker Football Program and Nebraska Athletics. When you pick up your tickets in the fall, you will be given a new Husker T-shirt, commemorating the beginning of a new era in Husker Football. And just so you know, we've been listening and there's a definite possibility that the T-shirt will not be red. We hope you'll enjoy wearing it to the first game. You are valuable members of our team.

 

Tom Osborne

 

It's not as bad as the DN article makes it out to be.

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Have any of the student organizations requested a meeting with the AD's office on this matter? Before somebody embarrasses themselves lodging a stupid protest, come up with a plan for the student section, find somebody to represent the students, and present a plan as to why and where you want the students section to be.

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