Simplify offense to get kids on the field quicker!

[Vince from ShamWOW]

Why don't they get moved to I-back or DBs. They came out with Dez Bryant and he is an All-American and these guys can't get on the field? Paul was a HS AA, like Bryant, but look at Bryant and look at Paul? This offensive scheme is to complicated for WRs to learn w/o a 2 year associates! They need to get theses kids on the field somewhere! Back in HS Round Rock from Curyenksi's district, a team that Leander beat took out Dez's Lufkin team. Something truly is a miss.

All I heard was blah blah blah...I have a man-crush on Dez Bryant..

 

 

 

[huKSer]

Bo knows football.

He's playing the best players.

 

a LITTLE faith in him?

 

 

No, no, no. Coaches NEVER play the best players. They want to lose, or at least not beat the point spread. They only play their favorites because they like sitting around getting paid for a couple of years after they get canned.

 

[topekahusker]

Our playbook was 'dummed down' for the OU game IMHO. First play from scrimmage was a PIK 6 for OU.

 

The coaches need to quit reading this message board for our recommendations. (grin)

[Pedro Guerrero]

Why aren't any Frosh playing on defense like they do other places. Look at Travis Lewis he was All Big 12 and he is a RS Frosh. Plenty of coaches and players have come out and said that the defensive scheme and playbook are really hard to pick up so why don't they dumb that down to get the younger guys on the field?

 

Maybe Paul and the rest of younger receivers aren't as good as Swift and Peterson. Hold on didn't those 2 play as frosh? Wait wasn't one of those guys a frosh AA and one of the best to ever play here? It can't be that those two are better it just has to be the complicated playbook.

[RedDenver]

So wait, what's the original premise? We should steal Bryant from OSU because he played as a frosh? /sarcasm

 

BTW Okie St. is #43 natioanlly in passing offense at 233.25 yards/game while NU is #14 at 284.75 yards/game. Now that's a fact.

[FriscoTXHusker]

Yeah, when I was a kid we just made up plays in the huddle. Didn't have to learn or remember any plays and could just focus on moving the ball. Furthermore, the defense had a heck of a time trying to figure out what we were doing. Come to think of it, so did we.

[DaveH]

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if our offense were any simpler, watson would have barney using hand puppets to call in plays to ganz.

 

not to say barney doesn't already do that. i'm just saying.

[Enhance]

It's already been simplified? I don't think you would want to do that any further or you might as well go ahead and change the offense.

 

I agree with this.

 

Think about it, before we played Missouri we were running a very complicated multi-set offense. We had power I, shotgun, ace, and many others. Callahan's playbook was 800,000,000 pages long and was very complicated, which forced players to have to tirelessly work with the playbook to understand the offense (perhaps players were so worried about the offensive scheme they forgot fundamentals?) Watson retained a lot of Callahan's playbook and kept going at it with the West-Coast multi-set offense.

 

After Missouri, we primarily switched to shotgun spread formations. I can't even tell you the last time I saw the power I on the field when it wasn't 3rd or 4th and short. I know we have done power I but it has become very rare. Even with the shotgun spread attack, however, players need to know the playbook and the importance of timing (which is a key component of the spread offense).

 

Dumbing down the offense (for lack of a better term) would result in us changing our offensive scheme again. I don't think their is any offense that could be easier to run then perhaps a power run game, but even power run option games means players need to understand schemes, strong blocking, and you have to have a quarterback to run it well.

 

TL:DRSimply put, dumbing down the offense more would result in a change of offense, and I don't think there is any offense that can be learned simply. Put players in when they are ready and understand, because this type of offense doesn't have the ability to include a lot of young players.

[illnino]

It's already been simplified? I don't think you would want to do that any further or you might as well go ahead and change the offense.

 

I agree with this.

 

Think about it, before we played Missouri we were running a very complicated multi-set offense. We had power I, shotgun, ace, and many others. Callahan's playbook was 800,000,000 pages long and was very complicated, which forced players to have to tirelessly work with the playbook to understand the offense (perhaps players were so worried about the offensive scheme they forgot fundamentals?) Watson retained a lot of Callahan's playbook and kept going at it with the West-Coast multi-set offense.

 

After Missouri, we primarily switched to shotgun spread formations. I can't even tell you the last time I saw the power I on the field when it wasn't 3rd or 4th and short. I know we have done power I but it has become very rare. Even with the shotgun spread attack, however, players need to know the playbook and the importance of timing (which is a key component of the spread offense).

 

Dumbing down the offense (for lack of a better term) would result in us changing our offensive scheme again. I don't think their is any offense that could be easier to run then perhaps a power run game, but even power run option games means players need to understand schemes, strong blocking, and you have to have a quarterback to run it well.

 

TL:DRSimply put, dumbing down the offense more would result in a change of offense, and I don't think there is any offense that can be learned simply. Put players in when they are ready and understand, because this type of offense doesn't have the ability to include a lot of young players.

[In the Deed the Glory]

The offense cannot be dumbed down more.

 

Some players just have it and dominate as freshmen, but those are rare. Not every "fast" or highly-rated receiver prospect is going to come in and pull a Dez Bryant.

Jones and Green started at Bama and UGA. The West Coast play calling system is complicated compared to the Sid Gillman/Don Coryell/Joe Gibbs system, that uses numbers for routes, this is a fact of football.

 

If you get a free education to play football, you should be able to learn a playbook. How are numbers more complicated than names? Easy vs. Complicated has everything to do with individual abilities of people, not the system itself, and it is an opinion regardless.

 

Also, a fact is something that is proven to be accurate 100% of the time. An opinion is what one person or a group of people believe that may or may not differ from another person or group.

 

Two examples (three if you count your unnatural crush on Dez Bryant) doesn't make it a rule. Zoogies said that "not every" one of these would play right away. I'm sure there are more than 3 fast and highly rated receivers that are in the first year of their college career.

 

90% of the NFL calls plays with the "West Coast System" so maybe you don't play right away in college, but its easier to pick up if you get to the NFL. If we're talking about highly rated WR, that is a consideration as well. Granted, most of those won't even pan out in college, let alone the NFL.

 

I think we need to let the OC of an offense that has been top 15 two years in a row call these shots, don't you?

Gillman and WC system are both West Coast per se, but Gillman's system is big OL, fast WRs and a power running game, with a big play-action game that tries to hit deep passes. The WC as per Walsh requires big WRs, more movement by OL, therefore requiring smaller, quicker types. The QB doesn't need a gun arm, the Gillman/Coryell system needs a gut that has a cannon and can hit the deep pass with touch. Best WC QBs today would be Favre and McNabb, best Coryell QBs are Brady & Kurt Warner. The Colts and Panthers run a system more akin to the Gillman system, but comes from the old Steelers and Giants from 70s and 80s.

 

I would put Drew Brees as the best WC QB out there now. Even though they are running more of the old Oilers style spread gun offense. I appreciate having someone else to banter with about the NFL, but we should talk about it in another board.

 

I would disagree with Favre being a WC kind of QB. He is because that is what he had been brought up in, but his tendency is more of an old school gunslinger. He still has the strongest arm in the NFL.

All Favre coaches are WC guys starting with Holmgren. I guess you don't remember Sterling Sharpe? Brees, right here from Westlake, they do run the WC system.

 

I really don't know what a WR has to do with anything you've talked about before. And that is what I said, he has been brought up in that system, but at heart it isn't his style.

 

Do you actually read the other posts or just post whatever the hell pops into your head?

[rkhufu7]

The offense cannot be dumbed down more.

 

Some players just have it and dominate as freshmen, but those are rare. Not every "fast" or highly-rated receiver prospect is going to come in and pull a Dez Bryant.

Jones and Green started at Bama and UGA. The West Coast play calling system is complicated compared to the Sid Gillman/Don Coryell/Joe Gibbs system, that uses numbers for routes, this is a fact of football.

 

If you get a free education to play football, you should be able to learn a playbook. How are numbers more complicated than names? Easy vs. Complicated has everything to do with individual abilities of people, not the system itself, and it is an opinion regardless.

 

Also, a fact is something that is proven to be accurate 100% of the time. An opinion is what one person or a group of people believe that may or may not differ from another person or group.

 

Two examples (three if you count your unnatural crush on Dez Bryant) doesn't make it a rule. Zoogies said that "not every" one of these would play right away. I'm sure there are more than 3 fast and highly rated receivers that are in the first year of their college career.

 

90% of the NFL calls plays with the "West Coast System" so maybe you don't play right away in college, but its easier to pick up if you get to the NFL. If we're talking about highly rated WR, that is a consideration as well. Granted, most of those won't even pan out in college, let alone the NFL.

 

I think we need to let the OC of an offense that has been top 15 two years in a row call these shots, don't you?

Gillman and WC system are both West Coast per se, but Gillman's system is big OL, fast WRs and a power running game, with a big play-action game that tries to hit deep passes. The WC as per Walsh requires big WRs, more movement by OL, therefore requiring smaller, quicker types. The QB doesn't need a gun arm, the Gillman/Coryell system needs a gut that has a cannon and can hit the deep pass with touch. Best WC QBs today would be Favre and McNabb, best Coryell QBs are Brady & Kurt Warner. The Colts and Panthers run a system more akin to the Gillman system, but comes from the old Steelers and Giants from 70s and 80s.

 

I would put Drew Brees as the best WC QB out there now. Even though they are running more of the old Oilers style spread gun offense. I appreciate having someone else to banter with about the NFL, but we should talk about it in another board.

 

I would disagree with Favre being a WC kind of QB. He is because that is what he had been brought up in, but his tendency is more of an old school gunslinger. He still has the strongest arm in the NFL.

All Favre coaches are WC guys starting with Holmgren. I guess you don't remember Sterling Sharpe? Brees, right here from Westlake, they do run the WC system.

 

I really don't know what a WR has to do with anything you've talked about before. And that is what I said, he has been brought up in that system, but at heart it isn't his style.

 

Do you actually read the other posts or just post whatever the hell pops into your head?

3 WR, TE and RB a spread, with power I also to mix in some variations. The offense will eventually look like OSU's (Stillwater).

[LouisianaHusker]

rkhufu7, would this be a simple enough of a offense for you?

 

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Nebraska Straight ahead

 

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