BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? Quote Link to comment
BigWillie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? Not going into this whole discussion again as I did months ago, but just because they coached together does not mean a single thing. There are a few coaches on this staff that were 'recommended' to Bo and not the people he pushed for. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNMO Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Wasn't Cotton one of Bo's guys? No. I think Cotton would be fine with a different OC, I think Watson would be better with a different line and WR coach. I think it's Watson and Gilmore vs Beck and Cotton. Something obviously has to change this offseason IMO. Name me one time Cotton has produced a very good offensive line. Guy has been dog meat his entire career. Technically the word I used was fine . I don't think he'll ever be good, do you disagree that Watson's schemes and Cotton's coaching "techniques" are polar opposites? Is Watson afraid to climb into Barney's rear? I think Watson seems laid back, especially compared to Bo. Maybe Watson just needs to show some fire out there. Quote Link to comment
RedGixxer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think that when Bo was hired he would've brought more of his own people in on Offense but it was STRONGLY suggested by TO that he leave it mostly intact. I think there was logic to this. 1. You had a pretty effective offense that was returning a senior qb, 2 senior WR, and 2 nfl bound senior O-linemen. 2. It would provide some continuity and allow your offense to be functional while you rebuild the D. 3. You would win more games in your first year this way. That all happened and I think it was the right thing but now...... I think Bo can and perhaps will make some changes at the end of the year. On the other hand I think Bo and TO believe in avoiding the coaching carousel. Wasn't Cotton one of Bo's guys? What do you think? I say TO was wrong. All he cares about is mentoring whatever that is. BO should ****can all his assistant coaches and start from square 1. Then BO can hire anybody he wants and then maybe the huskers will be good again... Quote Link to comment
RedGixxer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Cotton would not be fine with another OC. Cotton would be fine with another profession. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? Not going into this whole discussion again as I did months ago, but just because they coached together does not mean a single thing. There are a few coaches on this staff that were 'recommended' to Bo and not the people he pushed for. Watson was another one of them, interestingly - or wasn't he? Who else, though? Quote Link to comment
BigWillie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Technically the word I used was fine . I don't think he'll ever be good, do you disagree that Watson's schemes and Cotton's coaching "techniques" are polar opposites? Is Watson afraid to climb into Barney's rear? I think Watson seems laid back, especially compared to Bo. Maybe Watson just needs to show some fire out there. If you want me to put it honestly, Barney is probably one of the most incompetent coaches we have had at Nebraska in our long history. Barney came in, ran off a couple of recruits, decided to change our offensive line philosophy, which was fine and decided we needed to be more of a the mauling type offensive line. Say what you want about Bill Callahan, but that guy is an absolute genius offensive line coach and has proven that every stop he has went to. Look what he has done with the Jets o-line and their rushing attack. But Barney, being the genius he is, decides he knows more than Callahan and needs to change our blocking schemes even though we were not changing offensive philosophy. Barney is just a moron to an epic degree. And it doesn't matter what Watson thinks of Barney. There are a few guys on this staff that we all just need to get used to. Watson was another one of them, interestingly - or wasn't he? Who else, though? People forgot the top offenses Watson has produced. Heck, just a little over a season ago we had Nick Saban offering big $$$ to bring Watson down to Tuscaloosa to coach his offense. We were lucky enough to keep him although 'Bama kept calling. And now we want to run him out of town. Just imagine if Cody sets the world of fire over the next few weeks. People will eliminate this from their memory, Watson will be a great OC again and we will be proclaiming ourselves preseason NC's for next season. Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well, I was actually just wondering what other coaches on this staff were recommended. Everyone but Pap/Ek/Beck/CP? Not all of the recommendations were bad, I am assuming. I've been in Watson's corner the whole way. Actually kind of wish we still had Lee starting. It'll take some time to come around to Green, I guess. Also, who were the recruits Barney ran off? Hoch/Givens, or non-OL recruits? Quote Link to comment
funhusker Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? You are correct. Cotton is definately Bo's guy. Anyone not retained from the previous staff is Bo's guys. Quote Link to comment
macroboy Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? Not going into this whole discussion again as I did months ago, but just because they coached together does not mean a single thing. There are a few coaches on this staff that were 'recommended' to Bo and not the people he pushed for. So does this mean you think there will be changes after the season or does this mean we are stuck with some guys forever? Quote Link to comment
HuskerTrucker Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Oh Gee!!! Another "lets fire the coach, but have no idea who should be hired or would even come in here" thread...think I am going to barf!! Quote Link to comment
BigWillie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well, I was actually just wondering what other coaches on this staff were recommended. Everyone but Pap/Ek/Beck/CP? Not all of the recommendations were bad, I am assuming. I've been in Watson's corner the whole way. Actually kind of wish we still had Lee starting. It'll take some time to come around to Green, I guess. Also, who were the recruits Barney ran off? Hoch/Givens, or non-OL recruits? As I said, not going down this road again because of what happened last time. Search my posts back to about last year. I discussed it a bit before people went nuts that I even suggested it. I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? You are correct. Cotton is definately Bo's guy. Anyone not retained from the previous staff is Bo's guys. He is incorrect as are you. Barney was recommended to Bo and was not someone Bo originally asked to be put on his staff. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 New Earth's long running of hatred towards Cotton makes me smile because it means I am not alone in holding long term grudges against sports figures.... Honest question. How did Watson go from having one of the best offense's in the NCAA last year to sucking? Injuries, young starters and the adjustment to such might point to a lot. Quote Link to comment
Ohio Pete Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Honest question. How did Watson go from having one of the best offense's in the NCAA last year to sucking? Injuries, young starters and the adjustment to such might point to a lot. Not too many teams don't lose a step when you replace your QB, top 2 WRs and top 2 of 3 RBs (with the other one playing with injuries only because we have nothing else behind him). And that's not even talking about the O Line. Quote Link to comment
funhusker Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well, I was actually just wondering what other coaches on this staff were recommended. Everyone but Pap/Ek/Beck/CP? Not all of the recommendations were bad, I am assuming. I've been in Watson's corner the whole way. Actually kind of wish we still had Lee starting. It'll take some time to come around to Green, I guess. Also, who were the recruits Barney ran off? Hoch/Givens, or non-OL recruits? As I said, not going down this road again because of what happened last time. Search my posts back to about last year. I discussed it a bit before people went nuts that I even suggested it. I thought Coach Pelini and Cotton were on Solich's staff together and that was the reason Cotton got the call. How does that not make him "Bo's guy"? You are correct. Cotton is definately Bo's guy. Anyone not retained from the previous staff is Bo's guys. He is incorrect as are you. Barney was recommended to Bo and was not someone Bo originally asked to be put on his staff. Bo makes hiring/firing decisions with assistants. That is FACT. Cotton may or may not have been recommended by Christ himself, but Bo hired him!!! That makes is absolute fact the Cotton is Bo's guy. TO runs the athletic dept. not the football team!! Quote Link to comment
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