Kyler Reed

[carlfense]

I don't trust them, either, but I don't know where else to go to get info on a kid's speed. I agree about game day speed being far different, though. And I don't know that we need him to be so blazing fast. If he's just average like Swift was, but can catch the ball, that's all we need.

+1 and agreed.

[NUance]

I don't trust them, either, but I don't know where else to go to get info on a kid's speed. I agree about game day speed being far different, though. And I don't know that we need him to be so blazing fast. If he's just average like Swift was, but can catch the ball, that's all we need.

+1 and agreed.

 

Kyler ran just over 11.0 in teh 100m in high school track. That’s okay, but nothing to write home about. Eric Crouch and Ahman Green both ran around 10.4 or 10.5. So did Andrew Shanle and Erwin Swiney. Then again the 100m is even less useful than the 40yd as a stat for football speed.

 

If Kyler Reed can catch as well as Swift, then we got us a new WR. We have a shortage of receivers who can actually catch the ball right now. This was painfully noticeable last year.

[Igetbored216]

Kyler Reed has above average speed for a WR. He is in the process of losing weight which may or may not make him even faster.

[knapplc]

Michael, any idea what "average" speed for a WR is? Or any hints where I could find that kind of info?

[billdozer15]

I don't trust them, either, but I don't know where else to go to get info on a kid's speed. I agree about game day speed being far different, though. And I don't know that we need him to be so blazing fast. If he's just average like Swift was, but can catch the ball, that's all we need.

+1 and agreed.

 

Kyler ran just over 11.0 in teh 100m in high school track. That’s okay, but nothing to write home about. Eric Crouch and Ahman Green both ran around 10.4 or 10.5. So did Andrew Shanle and Erwin Swiney. Then again the 100m is even less useful than the 40yd as a stat for football speed.

 

If Kyler Reed can catch as well as Swift, then we got us a new WR. We have a shortage of receivers who can actually catch the ball right now. This was painfully noticeable last year.

 

I thought I read somewhere last year that Kyler set the NU record for fastest 10 yard shuttle/sprint or something. Granted 10 yards (IIRC) isnt that far but if he is extremely quick off the line that will do wonders in the slot position when our QB is being pressured.

[knapplc]

OK, take this with a grain of salt. It's from "List After List," which describes itself as a wiki of lists. So not sure how accurate this is. Here is their list for 2009 fastest NFL combine times:

 

 

Knox, Johnny 4.25 - WR

Butler, Deon 4.26 - WR

Harvin, Percy 4.37 - WR

Ogletree, Kevin 4.37 - WR

Kenny Britt 4.48 - WR

Cook, Jared 4.50 secs - TE

White, Pat 4.50 - QB

Barden, Ramses 4.57 - WR

 

Here's their list for 2008 (note the huge disparity in the number of people listed here:

 

1. Branch, Tyvon - 4.24 seconds

2. King, Justin - 4.29

3. Bowman, Zackary - 4.34

4. McKelvin, Leodis - 4.35

5. Franklin, Will - 4.37

6. Jackson, Dexter - 4.37

7. Godfrey, Charles - 4.45

8. Grice-Mullen, Ryan - 4.46

9. Simpson, Jerome - 4.47

10. Reynaud, Darius - 4.47

11. Stewart, Jonathan - 4.48

12. Choice, Tashard - 4.52

13. Purify, Maurice - 4.53

14. Groves, Quentin - 4.57

15. Keglar, Stanford - 4.58

16. Jackson, Chevis - 4.58

17. Manningham, Mario - 4.59

18. O'Connell, Kevin - 4.61

19. Green-Ellis, BenJarvus - 4.63

20. Abdullah, Husain - 4.63

21. Amendola, Danny - 4.64

22. Gooden, Tavares - 4.65

23. McKinney, Justin - 4.65

24. McBride, Shaheer - 4.66

25. Barber, Dominique - 4.66

26. Castille, Simeon - 4.67

27. Gholston, Vernon - 4.67

28. Octavien, Steve - 4.67

29. Bennett, Martellus - 4.69

30. Wheeler, Philip - 4.73

 

The 2008 list has 241 players, while the 2009 has eight. No source is cited for these numbers that I could see, so take them with a grain of salt, I guess.

 

Anyway, if Rivals' reported time of 4.5/40 for Reed is accurate, that means he's got above-average speed, if these times are anything to go by.

[jsneb83]

OK, take this with a grain of salt. It's from "List After List," which describes itself as a wiki of lists. So not sure how accurate this is. Here is their list for 2009 fastest NFL combine times:

 

 

Knox, Johnny 4.25 - WR

Butler, Deon 4.26 - WR

Harvin, Percy 4.37 - WR

Ogletree, Kevin 4.37 - WR

Kenny Britt 4.48 - WR

Cook, Jared 4.50 secs - TE

White, Pat 4.50 - QB

Barden, Ramses 4.57 - WR

 

Here's their list for 2008 (note the huge disparity in the number of people listed here:

 

1. Branch, Tyvon - 4.24 seconds

2. King, Justin - 4.29

3. Bowman, Zackary - 4.34

4. McKelvin, Leodis - 4.35

5. Franklin, Will - 4.37

6. Jackson, Dexter - 4.37

7. Godfrey, Charles - 4.45

8. Grice-Mullen, Ryan - 4.46

9. Simpson, Jerome - 4.47

10. Reynaud, Darius - 4.47

11. Stewart, Jonathan - 4.48

12. Choice, Tashard - 4.52

13. Purify, Maurice - 4.53

14. Groves, Quentin - 4.57

15. Keglar, Stanford - 4.58

16. Jackson, Chevis - 4.58

17. Manningham, Mario - 4.59

18. O'Connell, Kevin - 4.61

19. Green-Ellis, BenJarvus - 4.63

20. Abdullah, Husain - 4.63

21. Amendola, Danny - 4.64

22. Gooden, Tavares - 4.65

23. McKinney, Justin - 4.65

24. McBride, Shaheer - 4.66

25. Barber, Dominique - 4.66

26. Castille, Simeon - 4.67

27. Gholston, Vernon - 4.67

28. Octavien, Steve - 4.67

29. Bennett, Martellus - 4.69

30. Wheeler, Philip - 4.73

 

The 2008 list has 241 players, while the 2009 has eight. No source is cited for these numbers that I could see, so take them with a grain of salt, I guess.

 

Anyway, if Rivals' reported time of 4.5/40 for Reed is accurate, that means he's got above-average speed, if these times are anything to go by.

the 2008 list looks like it shows all positions. it has zack bowman and steve octavien and I'm pretty sure they weren't receivers

[junior4949]

Aren't the Rivals times based on 40 yard dashes when the player was in high school? If so, then there shouldn't be much merit. Most are hand held times taken on the track wearing sprinting spikes rather than electronic times while running in cleats on grass. Also, how many kids who are listed at 6'4, 250 pounds are actually that size even though their high school coach lists them at that size? In the end, I'm not sure it really matters. As long as he can catch the ball, hold onto the ball, and gain some yards; who really gives a rats behind whether he runs a 4.4 or a 4.6?

[knapplc]

the 2008 list looks like it shows all positions. it has zack bowman and steve octavien and I'm pretty sure they weren't receivers

 

It does show all positions, but it's relevant simply because WRs are, of necessity, included. That's if this list is accurate, of course, which isn't a given. It's just a bare reference, that's all.

[jsneb83]

the 2008 list looks like it shows all positions. it has zack bowman and steve octavien and I'm pretty sure they weren't receivers

 

It does show all positions, but it's relevant simply because WRs are, of necessity, included. That's if this list is accurate, of course, which isn't a given. It's just a bare reference, that's all.

yea ok I get you now, I just thought you were asking why the one list only had eight and the other on had over 200. my bad

[blackshirts5115]

Aren't the Rivals times based on 40 yard dashes when the player was in high school? If so, then there shouldn't be much merit. Most are hand held times taken on the track wearing sprinting spikes rather than electronic times while running in cleats on grass. Also, how many kids who are listed at 6'4, 250 pounds are actually that size even though their high school coach lists them at that size? In the end, I'm not sure it really matters. As long as he can catch the ball, hold onto the ball, and gain some yards; who really gives a rats behind whether he runs a 4.4 or a 4.6?

Nope. Rivals actually looks into the future and determines what their 40 times will be in college.

[Igetbored216]

I guess 40 times are great, but don't really tell me all that much other than somebody can run in a straight line. Reed is fast, I will just leave it at that.

[I Bo-lieve]

Theres a definite difference between high school 40 time fast and pad fast. And from what I haave seen Kyler has some stellar pad speed. He looks really smooth running out on the field. Hopefully the injury doesnt hinder his speed.

[RockyMountainOySker]

Aren't the Rivals times based on 40 yard dashes when the player was in high school? If so, then there shouldn't be much merit. Most are hand held times taken on the track wearing sprinting spikes rather than electronic times while running in cleats on grass. Also, how many kids who are listed at 6'4, 250 pounds are actually that size even though their high school coach lists them at that size? In the end, I'm not sure it really matters. As long as he can catch the ball, hold onto the ball, and gain some yards; who really gives a rats behind whether he runs a 4.4 or a 4.6?

Nope. Rivals actually looks into the future and determines what their 40 times will be in college.

That is fantastic!

[huzkerbob]

I don't think the coaches are making this move because of Kyler's speed primarily. I think it has more to do with getting a physical presence on the edge, who can also catch the short and intermediate routes that Wat's offense depends on.

 

The combination of Kyler's playmaking ability and the logjam at the TE position created with the signing of Harper has allowed the coaches to move Reed into the slot role. But I think the continued improvement of returning starters Gilleylen and Kinnie at WR, and the ability of Zac Lee to come back from his torn flexor tendon will be much bigger factors in determining whether or not NU can improve it's down field passing game in 2010.