Big Ten/Pac-12 to enter regular season scheduling agreement in 2017

[papersun87]

From teh Twittarz:

 

@PeteThamelNYC: BREAKING: Pac-12 and Big Ten enter scheduling agreement. All 12 teams playing an inter-league football game starting 2017.

 

I like it.

 

Edit: USA Today has deetz (http://www.usatoday....ment/52253122/1).

 

Edit 2: Gut reactions:

 

1) We already have Tennessee as a non-con that year, and,

2) Looks like we might be seeing Colorado again one day.

[Atbone95]

I'm calling it now.... 2017 features Nebraska vs. Colorado. I mean, why wouldn't they?

[papersun87]

The article says that with this news, Delaney is rethinking the nine-game conference schedule idea. And the Big Ten let out a collective sigh of relief.

[gobiggergoredder]

24 team super conference? Best way to unofficially do it?

[Mavric]

24 team super conference? Best way to unofficially do it?

"Semi-finals" in the CCGs then the "Championship" in the Rose Bowl?

[Blackshirt316]

IMO this is a bad idea.

 

What you are effectively doing is making it more difficult to schedule OOC games against Big Name non Pac 12 BCS teams as you're already locked into an OOC away game each other year. Which will have a negative effect on recruiting the south and south east regions for the conference.

 

Plus the Big Ten is already regarded as too much of a mid-west centric conference why make that stereotype even more engrained? - Expecially if it makes it tougher for certain teams to continue playing other traditional OOC opponents, IE Notre Dame, Pitt etc.

 

Also probably inflames the whole Penn State resentments of not being Eastern leaning enough.

 

Not to mention the timezone issues and the fact that noone cares about Pac 12 football outside of the Pac 12 aside from the Rose Bowl game.

 

FAR too many negatives and not anywhere near enough positives IMO. If Big Ten teams want to schedule series with Pac 12 teams they can do that without the league mandating they do it.

[AFhusker]

IMO this is a bad idea.

 

What you are effectively doing is making it more difficult to schedule OOC games against Big Name non Pac 12 BCS teams as you're already locked into an OOC away game each other year. Which will have a negative effect on recruiting the south and south east regions for the conference.

 

Plus the Big Ten is already regarded as too much of a mid-west centric conference why make that stereotype even more engrained? - Expecially if it makes it tougher for certain teams to continue playing other traditional OOC opponents, IE Notre Dame, Pitt etc.

 

Also probably inflames the whole Penn State resentments of not being Eastern leaning enough.

 

Not to mention the timezone issues and the fact that noone cares about Pac 12 football outside of the Pac 12 aside from the Rose Bowl game.

 

FAR too many negatives and not anywhere near enough positives IMO. If Big Ten teams want to schedule series with Pac 12 teams they can do that without the league mandating they do it.

 

I don't see it as a bad thing, having Colorado (the most likely choice for NU) replace South Dakota State (and the like) is a good thing. He's also saying that they may not go to a 9 game conference schedule so NU would still get to play to creampuffs. Colorado will just replace the lower division teams like Wake Forest and then we keep the Tennessee's, Miami's, and Oklahoma's (ok, I'm dreaming there) as our marque OOC game. But even if they go to the 9 game schedule, NU will be ok if we are as good as we all hope we will be by that time. I have no problem with a cream puff, CU and a OU type OOC every year.

[HuskerBob4]

IMO this is a bad idea.

 

What you are effectively doing is making it more difficult to schedule OOC games against Big Name non Pac 12 BCS teams as you're already locked into an OOC away game each other year. Which will have a negative effect on recruiting the south and south east regions for the conference.

 

Plus the Big Ten is already regarded as too much of a mid-west centric conference why make that stereotype even more engrained? - Expecially if it makes it tougher for certain teams to continue playing other traditional OOC opponents, IE Notre Dame, Pitt etc.

 

Also probably inflames the whole Penn State resentments of not being Eastern leaning enough.

 

Not to mention the timezone issues and the fact that noone cares about Pac 12 football outside of the Pac 12 aside from the Rose Bowl game.

 

FAR too many negatives and not anywhere near enough positives IMO. If Big Ten teams want to schedule series with Pac 12 teams they can do that without the league mandating they do it.

 

AGREED!

 

I like the idea of having a "partnership" but why not do it with the big dogs in the SEC...

 

I think the B1G/PAC-12 arrangement is fatally flawed! If no one is watching PAC-12 football now, why would we want to boost their ratings..........

 

OH YEAH......FOX SPORTS!!!

 

This is so easy to see through it is laughable!!! FOX has dictated to us and the PAC-12 that they want us to have "national" appeal and pull viewers away from the SEC driven ESPN machine!

 

We have now joined the arms race against ESPN/SEC and we're light years behind!!!

[papersun87]

AGREED!

 

I like the idea of having a "partnership" but why not do it with the big dogs in the SEC...

 

I think the B1G/PAC-12 arrangement is fatally flawed! If no one is watching PAC-12 football now, why would we want to boost their ratings..........

 

OH YEAH......FOX SPORTS!!!

 

This is so easy to see through it is laughable!!! FOX has dictated to us and the PAC-12 that they want us to have "national" appeal and pull viewers away from the SEC driven ESPN machine!

 

We have now joined the arms race against ESPN/SEC and we're light years behind!!!

lol. Did you read the article? ABC/ESPN/BTN/Pac-12 Network AND Fox will all be broadcasting games.

[Excel]

I hope this doesn't turn into a superconference. I'd rather form one with the remnants of the Big XII or SEC than the Pac-12. Well actually now that I think about it I'd rather not have one at all.

[Nexus]

If I had to guess, FOX is the likely connection behind this decision. Both BTN and the future Pac-12 Network are co-partnered by FOX News Corp. At the end of the day, this is a business move to bolster both respective FOX-based networks and here's the key reason why:

 

Together, the Big Ten and Pac-12 encompass 15 states holding 43% of the nation's population and 22 of its top 50 television markets.

 

LINK

[BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA]

AGREED!

 

I like the idea of having a "partnership" but why not do it with the big dogs in the SEC...

 

I think the B1G/PAC-12 arrangement is fatally flawed! If no one is watching PAC-12 football now, why would we want to boost their ratings..........

 

OH YEAH......FOX SPORTS!!!

 

This is so easy to see through it is laughable!!! FOX has dictated to us and the PAC-12 that they want us to have "national" appeal and pull viewers away from the SEC driven ESPN machine!

 

We have now joined the arms race against ESPN/SEC and we're light years behind!!!

lol. Did you read the article? ABC/ESPN/BTN/Pac-12 Network AND Fox will all be broadcasting games.

Some people just like spouting off without having the facts

[VectorVictor]

AGREED!

 

I like the idea of having a "partnership" but why not do it with the big dogs in the SEC...

 

I think the B1G/PAC-12 arrangement is fatally flawed! If no one is watching PAC-12 football now, why would we want to boost their ratings..........

 

OH YEAH......FOX SPORTS!!!

 

This is so easy to see through it is laughable!!! FOX has dictated to us and the PAC-12 that they want us to have "national" appeal and pull viewers away from the SEC driven ESPN machine!

 

We have now joined the arms race against ESPN/SEC and we're light years behind!!!

lol. Did you read the article? ABC/ESPN/BTN/Pac-12 Network AND Fox will all be broadcasting games.

 

Fox means Fox OTA (Over the Air), like CBS or ABC, not Fox Sports or FX.

 

During the latest rounds of contract negotiations and conference affiliation changes, Fox OTA won the rights to the Pac-12 and Big 10 title games, and is expected to be a major player in the upcoming SEC (CBS' current 2nd tier broadcast rights) and Big 10 (ABC/ESPN 1st and 2nd tier rights) contract bidding in the upcoming years. Plus, Fox Cable has expanded Fox Sports' coverage to FX for second and third-tier nationwide broadcast rights.

 

Fox OTA has been looking for a perfect time to jump into broadcasting college football on Saturdays--there's a definite weakness in the ABC/ESPN offering (especially if you're not Texass or from the SEC), and they're losing advertising money and viewership on Saturday to their rivals. They've been amassing a war chest to bid with, and they're primed to use it.

 

If I had to guess, FOX is the likely connection behind this decision. Both BTN and the future Pac-12 Network are co-partnered by FOX News Corp.

 

You are correct. Fox is sucking up to the Big 10 something fierce, as they want the Big 10 and possibly part of the SEC (the CBS rights) to become the flagship for a Fox OTA Saturday broadcast to compete and steal money/viewership from ESPN/ABC/Disney/WaltDisney'sFrozenHead.

 

Expect to see more of this as we get closer to contract negotiation time. While it's not up until 2015, I would think that they will begin farming out/bidding late 2012.

[HSKR]

If you look at the past two decades of our schedule, this really shouldn't be that big of a deal. Heck, in the 90's we played a PAC-10 team every year, sometimes even two teams. As a fan I'd much rather see us playing one of these teams then South Dakota State. I'm not a big fan of FOX doing the bowl games but I think the BTN is by far the best conference network. FOX needs to take the next step, pay the cash and start doing weekly national games like ABC does when the contract comes up. Then hire some real announcers and treat college football like college football, not the NFL. That would go a long ways with me.

 

It is scary to think that this could be the next step of the super conference. Next will be an agreement like this with the SEC or ACC or maybe Big 12 if it is still around and if you aren't in one of these conferences, it will be next to impossible to schedule against any of these teams and the super conference will be born. Everyone else will be considered in a lower division.

[Blackshirt316]

IMO this is a bad idea.

 

What you are effectively doing is making it more difficult to schedule OOC games against Big Name non Pac 12 BCS teams as you're already locked into an OOC away game each other year. Which will have a negative effect on recruiting the south and south east regions for the conference.

 

Plus the Big Ten is already regarded as too much of a mid-west centric conference why make that stereotype even more engrained? - Expecially if it makes it tougher for certain teams to continue playing other traditional OOC opponents, IE Notre Dame, Pitt etc.

 

Also probably inflames the whole Penn State resentments of not being Eastern leaning enough.

 

Not to mention the timezone issues and the fact that noone cares about Pac 12 football outside of the Pac 12 aside from the Rose Bowl game.

 

FAR too many negatives and not anywhere near enough positives IMO. If Big Ten teams want to schedule series with Pac 12 teams they can do that without the league mandating they do it.

 

I don't see it as a bad thing, having Colorado (the most likely choice for NU) replace South Dakota State (and the like) is a good thing. He's also saying that they may not go to a 9 game conference schedule so NU would still get to play to creampuffs. Colorado will just replace the lower division teams like Wake Forest and then we keep the Tennessee's, Miami's, and Oklahoma's (ok, I'm dreaming there) as our marque OOC game. But even if they go to the 9 game schedule, NU will be ok if we are as good as we all hope we will be by that time. I have no problem with a cream puff, CU and a OU type OOC every year.

 

 

The problem with your post is that the Pac 12 game in many years would most likely replace the Tennesee's and Miami's not the South Dakota States because of scheduling issues.

 

 

For financial stability Nebraska's athletic department requires a MINIMUM of 7 home games a year. As does pretty much every other program.

 

With an 8 game conference slate that means you are guaranteed 4 conference home games with 4 conference road games each year.

 

So Nebraska schedules one big OOC game every year and can be flexible with when that road game takes place because one OOC game still lets them have 7 home games every year and up to 8 home games every other year.

 

If you add a Pac 12 team to the mix you've now got 5 guaranteed road games every other season. (4 conference and 1 OOC)

 

That severely limits your other big name OOC potential matchups because now you are no longer flexible on when that road game takes place.

 

Put it this way -

This starts in 2017. We have 3 OOC home games scheduled that year and already are scheduled to visit Tennesee in 2018. That means we MUST host the first Pac 12 game in 2017 to maintain the 7 home game financial need in 2018.

 

Then whatever 2019 OOC game we schedule if we were to schedule a home/home series with another BCS team would also have to be played in that team's stadium because the 2nd game in 2020 can't be on the road because we have to go to Boulder again (or whatever Pac 12 team it is).

 

11 other Pac 12/Big Ten teams will also be in the same predicament. So that is a lot of teams all needing to have very specific scheduling dates and that doesn't count the fact that those other leagues need home/away dates filled too.

 

So now you're setting up a system where the demand for BCS opponents with the right home/away setup starts to outweigh the supply and you'll be seeing a lot more of what we just saw last year with a P12 team and 3 cupcakes OOC.

 

 

And that's IF they do home/home series with the Big 10 and Pac 12 games. If they do the proposed neutral site matchups then count on never playing other BCS OOC games because now you're guaranteed to always be playing 3 cupcake OOC games to hit that 7 home game mark and have no possibility of the ocassional 8th game of extra revenue.