Gun Control

[beanman]

do your friends in MN approve of selling guns of felons are gun shows?

I don't think they go to gun shows. They have some dealer in the cities that they all drive to. They buy a lot of them. Even seen them give guns as birthday presents to their wives. Seems strange to me, but most of these people up here seem a little off in my opinion.

 

I don't own a gun, and I am definitely one of the few.

[strigori]

do your friends in MN approve of selling guns of felons are gun shows?

I don't think they go to gun shows. They have some dealer in the cities that they all drive to. They buy a lot of them. Even seen them give guns as birthday presents to their wives. Seems strange to me, but most of these people up here seem a little off in my opinion.

 

I don't own a gun, and I am definitely one of the few.

When they do those numbers for polls there is a science behind it. Probably a +/-3% or similar. And NM is hardly representative of the majority of people living in the US. Particularly if they do not live in a city of any kind.

 

Morons like Grassley making comments that "criminals don't submit to background checks" is at the same time both correct, and epicly stupid. Currently they don't have to, order online or roll into a gun show, they can buy one no question asked. And that is epicly stupid.

[carlfense]

Well, that's a pretty small sample size and I have my doubts as to how representative that figure is.

If only there was a website where we could "unskew" that poll.

[clyde40]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

[strigori]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

But you don't walk into Wal-Mart and buy crack or smack either. A person after the illegal drug has to find another criminal to buy the items.

[Junior]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

 

So we shouldn't try to at least make it more difficult for them? Logical.

[sd'sker]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

seriously, i can not tell. is this an argument against gun control or an argument for making all drugs legal?

[Junior]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

seriously, i can not tell. is this an argument against gun control or an argument for making all drugs legal?

 

He probably isn't sure either.

[clyde40]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

seriously, i can not tell. is this an argument against gun control or an argument for making all drugs legal?

 

He probably isn't sure either.

No it is not an argument for making drugs legal. All I'm saying is even if we make it harder for them to purchase guns criminals are going to find a way. But that's fine I'll just stay away from the "big boy" part of the board from now on.

[sd'sker]

It doesn't really matter what happens if people want a gun they'll get one. They're called criminals for a reason. Last time I checked there are a lot of illegal drugs that people can still get their hands on.

seriously, i can not tell. is this an argument against gun control or an argument for making all drugs legal?

 

He probably isn't sure either.

No it is not an argument for making drugs legal. All I'm saying is even if we make it harder for them to purchase guns criminals are going to find a way. But that's fine I'll just stay away from the "big boy" part of the board from now on.

the mere fact that you call it 'the big boy part of the board' tells me you're not ready for it.

[BigRedBuster]

do your friends in MN approve of selling guns of felons are gun shows?

I don't think they go to gun shows. They have some dealer in the cities that they all drive to. They buy a lot of them. Even seen them give guns as birthday presents to their wives. Seems strange to me, but most of these people up here seem a little off in my opinion.

 

I don't own a gun, and I am definitely one of the few.

When they do those numbers for polls there is a science behind it. Probably a +/-3% or similar. And NM is hardly representative of the majority of people living in the US. Particularly if they do not live in a city of any kind.

 

Morons like Grassley making comments that "criminals don't submit to background checks" is at the same time both correct, and epicly stupid. Currently they don't have to, order online or roll into a gun show, they can buy one no question asked. And that is epicly stupid.

 

 

LOL....Like they would submit to them after they are required to?

[The Dude]

I'm not sure about the ins and outs of this particular bill, but if it is similar to what was passed in Florida, it would probably be largely ineffective anyway. No one was really bothered to follow or enforce those ordinances. I could see that being the case on a national scale.

 

If it was more similar to what carlfense was suggesting early in the thread, I could see something like that being more impactful.

[walksalone]

I guess all this bitching and moaning is a bit silly. Should they have back ground checks for gun shows and online gun sales, yes.

 

But you are going after the people that aren't committing crimes. I know municipalities are offering "gun buy backs", but are those committing gun crimes, walking up and selling their guns?

 

I've got a brilliant idea for those up on Capital Hill, that are either butthurt or feeling like they've won something. How about coming up with a plan to get the guns away from those with criminal records? This bill isn't going to accomplish anything whether it would have passed or not.

[BigRedBuster]

I guess all this bitching and moaning is a bit silly. Should they have back ground checks for gun shows and online gun sales, yes.

 

But you are going after the people that aren't committing crimes. I know municipalities are offering "gun buy backs", but are those committing gun crimes, walking up and selling their guns?

 

I've got a brilliant idea for those up on Capital Hill, that are either butthurt or feeling like they've won something. How about coming up with a plan to get the guns away from those with criminal records? This bill isn't going to accomplish anything whether it would have passed or not.

 

 

Thank you....Can we please concentrate on something that is actually going to make a difference?

[QMany]

Besides 54 senators, a full 80 percent of Americans supported increasing background checks,according to recent polling. And there you have democracy in action: Most senators liked it, most Americans liked it, the president liked it, and it's now dead.