sd'sker Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 America's Real Criminal Element: Lead New research finds Pb is the hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even the ADHD epidemic. And fixing the problem is a lot cheaper than doing nothing. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I heard some guy talking about this same thing during some townhall-type-meeting-type-thing on, like, C-SPAN7, or something. I just assumed he was crazy. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 I heard some guy talking about this same thing during some townhall-type-meeting-type-thing on, like, C-SPAN7, or something. I just assumed he was crazy. it is a pretty fascinating read a very compelling. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Interesting article. Presented some apparently compelling evidence but it still seems like it may be coincidental and/or convenient correlation. One thing is for sure, it will have to be overwhelmingly proven to gain traction against the ingrained ideals of incarceration, poverty, law enforcement, etc. There aren't going to be a lot of people wanting to see lead as the proven culprit. Possibly explaining why this isn't already widely accepted. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 That is very interesting. It seemed like, while I was reading it, every time I formulated an argument against it they addressed it later in the article. What will be interesting is to see if it holds true into the future. I hope so. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 That is very interesting. It seemed like, while I was reading it, every time I formulated an argument against it they addressed it later in the article. What will be interesting is to see if it holds true into the future. I hope so. i agree. it is weird to think that at any given time there is a large portion of americans at risk to be criminals and something like lead can push them over. hopefully lead just continues to dissipate regardless of action because i do not see this becoming a policy priority, let alone consideration. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 That is very interesting. It seemed like, while I was reading it, every time I formulated an argument against it they addressed it later in the article. What will be interesting is to see if it holds true into the future. I hope so. i agree. it is weird to think that at any given time there is a large portion of americans at risk to be criminals and something like lead can push them over. hopefully lead just continues to dissipate regardless of action because i do not see this becoming a policy priority, let alone consideration. What specifically are you talking about? Legislation to eliminate more lead? Remediation of lead in soil? Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 That is very interesting. It seemed like, while I was reading it, every time I formulated an argument against it they addressed it later in the article. What will be interesting is to see if it holds true into the future. I hope so. i agree. it is weird to think that at any given time there is a large portion of americans at risk to be criminals and something like lead can push them over. hopefully lead just continues to dissipate regardless of action because i do not see this becoming a policy priority, let alone consideration. What specifically are you talking about? Legislation to eliminate more lead? Remediation of lead in soil? not sure if you read the second page and i do not think it was too specific, but it discussed the cost/benefit analysis of eradicating lead from houses and topsoil. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 That is very interesting. It seemed like, while I was reading it, every time I formulated an argument against it they addressed it later in the article. What will be interesting is to see if it holds true into the future. I hope so. i agree. it is weird to think that at any given time there is a large portion of americans at risk to be criminals and something like lead can push them over. hopefully lead just continues to dissipate regardless of action because i do not see this becoming a policy priority, let alone consideration. What specifically are you talking about? Legislation to eliminate more lead? Remediation of lead in soil? not sure if you read the second page and i do not think it was too specific, but it discussed the cost/benefit analysis of eradicating lead from houses and topsoil. That is actually the point in the article that they started to lose me. It seemed to be a fairly unsubstantiated claim that the payoff on $20B in soil remediation would translate tenfold to earning potential etc. I have no doubts that if atmospheric lead is keeping inner city dwellers dumber and more violent that it would be a good thing to do. But, surely it would not be that simple to overcome proven socioeconomic conditions that also copntribute to preventing these people from escaping poverty. I think it would be a tough sell without more/better proof than this article provides. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Just a thought... I wonder how this would affect the effort to tear down large amounts of Detroit and start urban farming. If the soil is full of lead, it might not be the best answer. I have been in favor of this movement but this is something they at least need to consider. Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yet Another Study Shows How Lead Exposure Can Produce More Violent Crime Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Pb(CH2CH3)4. Sure looks dangerous to me. Quote Link to comment
huKSer Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 If this is true, most Chinese would be a) in jail or II) not know which end of a rickshaw goes first or 3rd) the world's largest consumer of adderal. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I seem to remember something like this in Ancient Rome with their lead-lined aqueducts Quote Link to comment
Bradr Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If this is true, most Chinese would be a) in jail or II) not know which end of a rickshaw goes first or 3rd) the world's largest consumer of adderal. Give it 23 years... Quote Link to comment
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