What we learned today...

[irafreak]

Man, all these negative nancy's sure do come out of the woodworks. It's hilarious

This.

its what i love about husker football. Young defense is about mistakes and nu wasn't short of them today. Most of these guys went to prom 6 months ago..

god bless the internet

These types of statements are just as useless as the ones you are complaining about. If you check most of the "negative nancy" posters, you'll notice they've been apart of this site for quite awhile. But I'm sure you're a much better fan because you are satisified with a sub par performance again...

[The King]

I'll tell you what, we might have an all freshmen/sophomore Defensive line at some point this season. Ankrah has got to turn it on and I just don't think Randle has what it takes.

Wouldn't surprise me t'all if that happened. Also, WTF were they doing putting Gregory @ LB last night, what was that all about? He was, like, running with receivers.

 

He wasn't technically a linebacker. He was a drop end. They use him as a decoy and bring a blitz from the other side, and if I recall correctly it worked decently on the plays they used it. He also doesn't "run" with a receiver man to man. He drops into a zone defense. It was a new wrinkle they were working on.

 

EDIT - The point of it is to make the QB have to think about what he was doing and in the end, if they throw short routes they'll have to key on him at one point or another to see if he drops back or if he is rushing them, which makes the QB rush through his progressions.

[BOurNe sUpremacy]

Think we learned that we know what other teams especially Michigan and NW are going to do to our D. Spread it out with 4 or 5 wide and gash us up the middle with RB or QB.

Yea, Bo has proven with a large sample size to date that he has no clue how to defend the wide open spread offenses of the new millenium.

Is this serious or sarcastic?

serious

Please explain. IN 2009 and 2010 Bo was THE most innovative coach in the country in defending the types of offenses we played last night. I see a lot of folks complaining about the scheme. Do you even know what the scheme is? Do you even know what it takes to defend these offenses as a player in Bo's system? It takes a heavy amount of experience and film study. It's about knowing tendancies and concepts. Those defenses in 2009 and 2010 knew the opposing offenses as well as they did. Go back and watch the Missouri and oklahoma games of 2009 and '10. Watch the 2009 Big 12 Champ game. Do not pay attention to Suh or the pressure on the qb. pay attention to the DBs and their alignments and watch the routes ran. The defenders knew what routes were coming based on the alignment they were giving the O. This gave them the ability to anticipate with great success. We didnt have that last night. We always had a young guy just one step behind. I was encouraged by the speed on D, but I'm holding back judgement for when we play teams this defense is now built to defend. We're not necessarily all in to defend Wyoming style of offense anymore.

I tend to have the concept, no, the actual observationthat spread offenses with mobile QBS and shifty RBs put up circus like numbers on Bofense. '09 we had Suh, uh, that helped a bit, plus the overall D was much better than one we have now, for whatever reason. Does anyone here feel all warm and fuzzy when Shoelace or Brax or Geno Smith or Brett Smith is on the other side of the ball from our D--you know, a mobile guy? Those guys scare the crap outta me when it comes to Bofense, whereas a guy like Maxwell(Sparty), a guy that sits in the pocket poses no threat, usually, to our D. I dunno it's pretty self evident to me.

[Count 'Bility]

Watchin the game again for the 2nd time, hench the 3rd time I've seen it. I'm tellin yall, it's not as bad as it seems. Up 31-14 and 37-21 and shoulda made it 44-21 with only half a quarter left, and then just packed it in. This is obvious. A legit concern, but obvious. The Int was a game changer that gave them hope and we couldnt wake back up. Our D had the clamps down pretty decent from mid 1st quarter all the way till the 4th when we got up 31-14 and they seemed to let off and let Wyo get a quick score. A lot of their yards came in that flurry of a ridiculous comeback in the final 7 minutes. Without that, it wouldve looked a lot more respectable numbers wise. i wasnt hitting the panic button last night and I'm still not. These things happen. Kansas St lost to an FCS team at home and they were #1 less than a year ago.

 

 

 

I'm going to have to agree with you on this...I rewatched the game this morning and found the same...it wasn't near as bad as it seemed when I was watching last night.

Wyoming just score to go up 14-10 with over 11 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. We keep em on 14 till into the fourth quarter when we go up 31-14. At that point we just flat out packed it in. It's really pretty obvious. That's more concerning to me than anything. The youth needs to pick up on the 4 quarter concept quickly.

 

Another thing I've noticed is all the youngsters really seemed to settle beginning of the 2nd quarter. I really believe the emotions and all that of the first game were getting to them. Randy Gregory wanted out at the end of Wyo's 1st TD drive and they would take them out. I think they settled in, got a second wind and played some decent ball throughout the mid-stages of the game

 

We also played a lot of softer coverage giving them those clearout passes underneath that picked and gouged for 10-15 yards all night. Our offense was mellow all night. Never did we really try to stretch the field and open it up. We held a lot back. Now I know that's tough to take for folks that want us to come out and crush everyone every week, but it is a process and we cant show the whole book week one. If we go in late there and get that lead to 44-21, or at worse a fg for 40-21, that game probably ends in that fashion. Ohio St only beat Buffalo 40-21. I bet Wyoming is a hell of a lot better than Buffalo, and the Buckeyes are supposed to be MNC contenders. These types of games happen. I really want to guarantee that we'll see a huge jump next week. Practice speed to game speed is a pretty big jump. I saw a team that took a while to adjust to that last night. Yes, even the offense.

[BOurNe sUpremacy]

Man, all these negative nancy's sure do come out of the woodworks. It's hilarious

This.

its what i love about husker football. Young defense is about mistakes and nu wasn't short of them today. Most of these guys went to prom 6 months ago..

god bless the internet

These types of statements are just as useless as the ones you are complaining about. If you check most of the "negative nancy" posters, you'll notice they've been apart of this site for quite awhile. But I'm sure you're a much better fan because you are satisified with a sub par performance again...

Some fans are content to drive at

Know what I'm saying? It's a common faction in corn nation, perhaps the majority. Sunshine pumping, koolaid drinking, rainbow gazing, unicorn riding, santa claus bolievin', milk drinking, delusionary thinking, uh....well, I dont wanna start a fight here, haha.

[The King]

 

I tend to have the concept, no, the actual observationthat spread offenses with mobile QBS and shifty RBs put up circus like numbers on Bofense. '09 we had Suh, uh, that helped a bit, plus the overall D was much better than one we have now, for whatever reason. Does anyone here feel all warm and fuzzy when Shoelace or Brax or Geno Smith or Brett Smith is on the other side of the ball from our D--you know, a mobile guy? Those guys scare the crap outta me when it comes to Bofense, whereas a guy like Maxwell(Sparty), a guy that sits in the pocket poses no threat, usually, to our D. I dunno it's pretty self evident to me.

 

Those guys scare the crap out of everyone. Thats why most offenses that can recruit a decent dual threat QB, end up starting the dual threat QB over the guy who can't extend plays with his leg.

 

And also, if you're comparing QBs, Maxwell is a horrible example. Maxwell vs. Brax or Geno? The better equivalent would be Aaron Murray or AJ McCarron in comparison to them.

[irafreak]

Things I learned after reading this thread:

1. We have too many armchair QB's that think they know what is best for Husker football when they're not directly involved with it
   
2. Our defense is young...but when you have a humbling experience like this, you learn
   
3. Imani Cross averaged 8.1 yards per carry and everyone thought I was crazy for saying he deserved the #2 spot touting the freshmen instead. Eat crow you bizzles.
   
4. Bo Pelini isn't stupid...he knows what needs to be fixed...he's known for 3 years now. The kids aren't getting it. He has to figure out why they're not.
   
5. Tim Beck is still learning because some of his play calling was atrocious
   
6. Our pass defense SUCKED but had a few good plays.
   
7. Our linebackers sucked and are the reason we got torched on the ground...the line only had 4 people on it with our best guys getting double teamed...backers need to plug those holes and they were nonexistent.
   
8. We need to teach people to FINISH...on both sides of the ball. I saw people loafing on plays left and right both on offense and defense. That crap is unacceptable in high school football let alone college.
   
9. I know Bo Pelini gets it because he's coached defenses that have ranked in the top 5 in the nation numerous times (including here)...He needs to find out how to get his kids to execute on the field.
   
10. Those refs sucked bigtime
    
11. There's not much difference between a 250 lb lineman and a 300 lb one...Wyoming's offense proved that
    
12. The defense can be fixed...but it will take a team effort and a major effort on the coaches
    

Oh the irony...

[Count 'Bility]

 

Yea, Bo has proven with a large sample size to date that he has no clue how to defend the wide open spread offenses of the new millenium.

Is this serious or sarcastic?

serious

Please explain. IN 2009 and 2010 Bo was THE most innovative coach in the country in defending the types of offenses we played last night. I see a lot of folks complaining about the scheme. Do you even know what the scheme is? Do you even know what it takes to defend these offenses as a player in Bo's system? It takes a heavy amount of experience and film study. It's about knowing tendancies and concepts. Those defenses in 2009 and 2010 knew the opposing offenses as well as they did. Go back and watch the Missouri and oklahoma games of 2009 and '10. Watch the 2009 Big 12 Champ game. Do not pay attention to Suh or the pressure on the qb. pay attention to the DBs and their alignments and watch the routes ran. The defenders knew what routes were coming based on the alignment they were giving the O. This gave them the ability to anticipate with great success. We didnt have that last night. We always had a young guy just one step behind. I was encouraged by the speed on D, but I'm holding back judgement for when we play teams this defense is now built to defend. We're not necessarily all in to defend Wyoming style of offense anymore.

I tend to have the concept, no, the actual observationthat spread offenses with mobile QBS and shifty RBs put up circus like numbers on Bofense. '09 we had Suh, uh, that helped a bit, plus the overall D was much better than one we have now, for whatever reason. Does anyone here feel all warm and fuzzy when Shoelace or Brax or Geno Smith or Brett Smith is on the other side of the ball from our D--you know, a mobile guy? Those guys scare the crap outta me when it comes to Bofense, whereas a guy like Maxwell(Sparty), a guy that sits in the pocket poses no threat, usually, to our D. I dunno it's pretty self evident to me.

Again, I say go watch those games but DONT pay attention to Suh or the pressure. Watch the DB's. Those were guys like Gabbert, McCoy, Landry jones. Spread in the Big 12 is a much different animal than spread in the Big 10 with guys like Miller and Robinson. Those two make it much more difficult to defend with their feet. The Big12 is more of a exclusive pass type. That's what Wyoming was doing last night. Now they did run for a lot of yards, and with their qb too, but that was more of a fluke than anything I think. Wyo threw the book at our guys all night long. They learned a lot. Probably saw a lot of things they've never even seen before. Let's just see a game more or two before we write them off.

[BOurNe sUpremacy]

Watchin the game again for the 2nd time, hench the 3rd time I've seen it. I'm tellin yall, it's not as bad as it seems. Up 31-14 and 37-21 and shoulda made it 44-21 with only half a quarter left, and then just packed it in. This is obvious. A legit concern, but obvious. The Int was a game changer that gave them hope and we couldnt wake back up. Our D had the clamps down pretty decent from mid 1st quarter all the way till the 4th when we got up 31-14 and they seemed to let off and let Wyo get a quick score. A lot of their yards came in that flurry of a ridiculous comeback in the final 7 minutes. Without that, it wouldve looked a lot more respectable numbers wise. i wasnt hitting the panic button last night and I'm still not. These things happen. Kansas St lost to an FCS team at home and they were #1 less than a year ago.

 

 

 

I'm going to have to agree with you on this...I rewatched the game this morning and found the same...it wasn't near as bad as it seemed when I was watching last night.

No, dont tell me, it was worse? Oh, the horror, the hoooorrrroooorrrr!!!

[Count 'Bility]

And for all the complaints of the Oline, we were 40 or so yards from 4 guys rushing for over a hundred yards. Just not sure on that one.

[Hunter94]

I don't think I learned anything. Nothing's changed. It's the Bo Pelini era. Brace yourself.

nuf said...sad

[BOurNe sUpremacy]

 

I tend to have the concept, no, the actual observationthat spread offenses with mobile QBS and shifty RBs put up circus like numbers on Bofense. '09 we had Suh, uh, that helped a bit, plus the overall D was much better than one we have now, for whatever reason. Does anyone here feel all warm and fuzzy when Shoelace or Brax or Geno Smith or Brett Smith is on the other side of the ball from our D--you know, a mobile guy? Those guys scare the crap outta me when it comes to Bofense, whereas a guy like Maxwell(Sparty), a guy that sits in the pocket poses no threat, usually, to our D. I dunno it's pretty self evident to me.

 

Those guys scare the crap out of everyone. Thats why most offenses that can recruit a decent dual threat QB, end up starting the dual threat QB over the guy who can't extend plays with his leg.

 

And also, if you're comparing QBs, Maxwell is a horrible example. Maxwell vs. Brax or Geno? The better equivalent would be Aaron Murray or AJ McCarron in comparison to them.

Oh ok, uh Murray punked us too, right, like bad, made us look silly, in fact. I'll add that to my list.

[BOurNe sUpremacy]

And for all the complaints of the Oline, we were 40 or so yards from 4 guys rushing for over a hundred yards. Just not sure on that one.

Too bad they couldnt get the push for that 1/2 yd in the 4th, when we most needed it. Dang! Naw, they did a respectable job, but we're talking Wyo here, the team that was near last last year in rush D.

[The King]

 

I tend to have the concept, no, the actual observationthat spread offenses with mobile QBS and shifty RBs put up circus like numbers on Bofense. '09 we had Suh, uh, that helped a bit, plus the overall D was much better than one we have now, for whatever reason. Does anyone here feel all warm and fuzzy when Shoelace or Brax or Geno Smith or Brett Smith is on the other side of the ball from our D--you know, a mobile guy? Those guys scare the crap outta me when it comes to Bofense, whereas a guy like Maxwell(Sparty), a guy that sits in the pocket poses no threat, usually, to our D. I dunno it's pretty self evident to me.

 

Those guys scare the crap out of everyone. Thats why most offenses that can recruit a decent dual threat QB, end up starting the dual threat QB over the guy who can't extend plays with his leg.

 

And also, if you're comparing QBs, Maxwell is a horrible example. Maxwell vs. Brax or Geno? The better equivalent would be Aaron Murray or AJ McCarron in comparison to them.

Oh ok, uh Murray punked us too, right, like bad, made us look silly, in fact. I'll add that to my list.

 

He sure did. Proving that a GOOD pro style QB is still a very dangerous thing. As a matter of fact, I'd rather face Denard Robinson than Aaron Murray any day of the week and twice on Sunday. We don't have an answer for a pro style QB that can tear apart our secondary (which is our perceived strength, is it not?). We can do different things to contain dual threat QBs. Look at Denard, Colter last year.

[True2tRA]

I'll tell you what, we might have an all freshmen/sophomore Defensive line at some point this season. Ankrah has got to turn it on and I just don't think Randle has what it takes.

Wouldn't surprise me t'all if that happened. Also, WTF were they doing putting Gregory @ LB last night, what was that all about? He was, like, running with receivers.

 

He wasn't technically a linebacker. He was a drop end. They use him as a decoy and bring a blitz from the other side, and if I recall correctly it worked decently on the plays they used it. He also doesn't "run" with a receiver man to man. He drops into a zone defense. It was a new wrinkle they were working on.

 

EDIT - The point of it is to make the QB have to think about what he was doing and in the end, if they throw short routes they'll have to key on him at one point or another to see if he drops back or if he is rushing them, which makes the QB rush through his progressions.

 

Problem with this theory is, without pressure, without forcing the QB to hurry through his progression, then none of this matters. Smith did a great job of creating time for himself. His pocket presence remarkable, his ability to find an open lane and extend plays was spectacular. But there was plenty of times when he was able to stand back there and find an open man, or he was able to take off and run. Now, nobody can expect to stop these things all of the time. What is scary is that teams with this sort of offense have done these same things to us for a few years now. You would think we would have a few adjustments for this thrown in here or there. Yet according to most accounts it looked like Wyoming was doing a lot of the same things over and over, and Nebraska really was not adjusting to them much.

 

I understand Bo not waning to give up the big play. But when we blitz, it seems to work in our favor almost every single time. The thing about blitzing is, although it can make you susceptible to the big play, it can also give you an opportunity to make a big play. In the end, it puts the pressure in the opposing offense to BEAT YOU. Instead of hoping they BEAT THEMSELVES. This bend don't break, allowing opposing teams to move down the field on us while we patty cake with their offensive line and pray for a mistake, well.....it has to go.