Hedley Lamarr Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Still the obvious question; who fires a 8-3 (if fired today) coach? we did that once and got Billie C. there is no guarantee the new coach would be worse then 8-3 but there is no guarantee a new coach would be better then 8-3 either. Bo does need to replace he DC and allow that DC some autonomy as to staff and actually running the D. Bo's issue is that he is a micromanager instead of a "big picture" CEO as he should be. only stepping in when it is needed and required (like Sabin, and many other coaches). Secondly he needs a QB coach who knows what he is doing, Tommy threw that last pass in to double coverage (Minnesota game) when 15 yards away was Ameer with at least 10 yards green grass in front of him. Tommy didn't even look to his check down receiver and best player on the team... ugh!! note: for those who want to fire Bo, wait till next year. I see 7 games that NU can easily/probably lose.. BYU, Miami, Michigan State, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa fire him then.. if this note belongs in a different thread please accept my apology this is my first post on this board and the idea of firing a 8-3 coach gets my goat up.. The entire country knows all about Pelini. Most outlets want to know why we haven't canned him?Proof? Google Ok, so none. Jesus H... There are three threads on the front page here that are from Sporting News, Sports Illustrated, and ESPN all saying we should move on. He shouldn't have to prove something he read after he linked to it FROM THIS BOARD! Stop grasping at straws. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Still the obvious question; who fires a 8-3 (if fired today) coach? we did that once and got Billie C. there is no guarantee the new coach would be worse then 8-3 but there is no guarantee a new coach would be better then 8-3 either. Bo does need to replace he DC and allow that DC some autonomy as to staff and actually running the D. Bo's issue is that he is a micromanager instead of a "big picture" CEO as he should be. only stepping in when it is needed and required (like Sabin, and many other coaches). Secondly he needs a QB coach who knows what he is doing, Tommy threw that last pass in to double coverage (Minnesota game) when 15 yards away was Ameer with at least 10 yards green grass in front of him. Tommy didn't even look to his check down receiver and best player on the team... ugh!! note: for those who want to fire Bo, wait till next year. I see 7 games that NU can easily/probably lose.. BYU, Miami, Michigan State, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa fire him then.. if this note belongs in a different thread please accept my apology this is my first post on this board and the idea of firing a 8-3 coach gets my goat up.. The entire country knows all about Pelini. Most outlets want to know why we haven't canned him?Proof? Google Ok, so none. Jesus H... There are three threads on the front page here that are from Sporting News, Sports Illustrated, and ESPN all saying we should move on. He shouldn't have to prove something he read after he linked to it FROM THIS BOARD! Stop grasping at straws. Exactly why I said Google :-D Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Still the obvious question; who fires a 8-3 (if fired today) coach? we did that once and got Billie C. there is no guarantee the new coach would be worse then 8-3 but there is no guarantee a new coach would be better then 8-3 either. Bo does need to replace he DC and allow that DC some autonomy as to staff and actually running the D. Bo's issue is that he is a micromanager instead of a "big picture" CEO as he should be. only stepping in when it is needed and required (like Sabin, and many other coaches). Secondly he needs a QB coach who knows what he is doing, Tommy threw that last pass in to double coverage (Minnesota game) when 15 yards away was Ameer with at least 10 yards green grass in front of him. Tommy didn't even look to his check down receiver and best player on the team... ugh!! note: for those who want to fire Bo, wait till next year. I see 7 games that NU can easily/probably lose.. BYU, Miami, Michigan State, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa fire him then.. if this note belongs in a different thread please accept my apology this is my first post on this board and the idea of firing a 8-3 coach gets my goat up.. Welcome. We were stuck with Billie C because Pederson was an idiot. I imagine if Bo is fired, Eichorst will not make the same mistake as Pederson. As much as I would like to see Pelini canned, I would probably give him a free hall pass if he fired his staff and hired a new OC, DC, QB coach, O-line coach, d-line coach, equipment manager, water boy, towel boy, salt-water aquarium guy, landscaper, and upgraded his phone with a new 2-year contract. And, as you alluded to, quit micromanaging. He has to trust his staff to do what he hired them for. Pederson went looking for a big name hire. He should have left it in the hands of a coaching firm but the guy seems like an egomaniac and wanted to put HIS stamp on the program. He sure did. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Still the obvious question; who fires a 8-3 (if fired today) coach? we did that once and got Billie C. there is no guarantee the new coach would be worse then 8-3 but there is no guarantee a new coach would be better then 8-3 either. Bo does need to replace he DC and allow that DC some autonomy as to staff and actually running the D. Bo's issue is that he is a micromanager instead of a "big picture" CEO as he should be. only stepping in when it is needed and required (like Sabin, and many other coaches). Secondly he needs a QB coach who knows what he is doing, Tommy threw that last pass in to double coverage (Minnesota game) when 15 yards away was Ameer with at least 10 yards green grass in front of him. Tommy didn't even look to his check down receiver and best player on the team... ugh!! note: for those who want to fire Bo, wait till next year. I see 7 games that NU can easily/probably lose.. BYU, Miami, Michigan State, Southern Miss, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa fire him then.. if this note belongs in a different thread please accept my apology this is my first post on this board and the idea of firing a 8-3 coach gets my goat up.. Looking purely at the record of a coach is like judging a pitcher in baseball off his record. You have to look deeper into it. In 7 years Bo is 5-19 against ranked teams, 0 conference championships, 0 BCS bowl games, 10 losses of 17+ points. Not only that we've lost two years in a row to Minnesota and two straight senior days. Also why would I want to wait till next year for Bo to possibly lose 7 games? I'd rather watch my favorite team win, so let's prevent the inevitable mediocre season and take a risk by hiring someone else who can lift us to a higher level. The new guy might be worse, who knows, but we know with Bo that he can't take us any farther than he's taken us. You don't even have to take into account the full 7 years because we clearly peaked in 09/10 and it's been downhill from there. The two most embarrassing losses happened this season and 2 years ago to the same team. This isn't Osborne getting whipped repeatedly by the national championship contending sooners. It's a solid-good but not great Wisconsin team. If you can't compete with Wisconsin (COMPETE!) then you are not where you want to be. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity That won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity That won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. Wish TO would actually retire 1 Quote Link to comment
beanman Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity That won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. Did hiring a replacement who liked to shag college students fit TO's philosophy? I mean, he can be wrong. It is possible. He's not Jesus. Or Obama. Quote Link to comment
Hedley Lamarr Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity That won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. Did hiring a replacement who liked to shag college students fit TO's philosophy? I mean, he can be wrong. It is possible. He's not Jesus. Or Obama. Don't tell him that Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrity That won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. What? Osborne had no problem finally cutting a coach he liked loose and bringing in an independent search firm himself when it came to basketball. Now that he's not working, he's going to quibble about the football program doing it? When he isn't actually ad anymore? You were making things up before, now you're just stringing words together. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We might have to kiss a few toads to find our next great HC. At least we will be trying to strive for greatness instead of wallow in mediocrityThat won't happen as long as Osborne is around and has any influence. It doesn't fit his philosophy.....and I would bet it doesn't fit the philosophy of those he's made key influence with over the years. What? Osborne had no problem finally cutting a coach he liked loose and bringing in an independent search firm himself when it came to basketball. Now that he's not working, he's going to quibble about the football program doing it? When he isn't actually ad anymore? You were making things up before, now you're just stringing words together. tbd Quote Link to comment
Number12 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Good post, that's how I feel too. Quote Link to comment
Hooked on Huskers Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 HuskerHipster post - well written !!! Basically nutshell. Can I shared your post ? I was a HuskerMax member ..... no doubt dozens and dozens of your replies within one hour. Quote Link to comment
Chaddyboxer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hipster-your initial post is gold. I couldn't have come up with a better analogy to describe the current state of the program. Excellent write and I totally agree with your sentiments. Quote Link to comment
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