MichiganDad3 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Nebraska has had good, occasionally great but too often mistake-prone offenses under both Beck and Langsdorf. They were both handed dual threat quarterbacks with sub-average completion percentages, and fared about as well as other OCs with mercurial dual threat QBs. There are a lot of them out there, because dual threat QBs are really dangerous when they're working, but liabilities when defenses can rattle them. You have to give Beck credit for Abdullah, in as much as no other team wanted to feature him as running back. For that matter, the maligned Beck and Watson oversaw three of the top rushing careers in Nebraska history with Helu, Burkhead and Abdullah. All three are currently in the NFL. While regularly operating a Top 20 rushing offense, Beck managed to guide Taylor Martinez to virtually ever passing and total offense record in Nebraska history. And Bell to the career receiving record. Langsdorf might well be the guy to help Tommy Armstrong break that total offense record. You can't say he had anything close to Abdullah, Burkhead or Helu to help keep the running game honest. Know what? Our defense has kinda sucked recently. We have bee on the high side of turnovers on offense and the low side on defense recently. Not a good combination. Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'd take Beck over Langsdorf any day. For a QB genius he sure did a sh**ty job with Armstrong. It's pretty well known by now, or at least I thought it was, that TA wasn't taking direction for Langsdorf very well. He was channeling his inner Farve(who he spent time with last summer) instead and tried to be a gun slinger. Once he finally decided he f'd up, after the regular season, and admitted it he looked different in the Bowl game. Once he decided to finally listen to Langsdorf for the bowl game weren't as many crazy passes, better game management, used his legs more instead of trying to force throws. So, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Don't blame TA being selfish on Langsdorf. Langsdorf should bench his QB if the QB does not follow directions. If one player gets away with not being a team player, more will follow. Was Ryker a team player when he skipped summer workouts? This is not just about TA. Players must follow the coaches decisions. Why did Ryker skip? Are summer workouts mandatory? Quote Link to comment
Waterloohusker26 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'd take Beck over Langsdorf any day. For a QB genius he sure did a sh**ty job with Armstrong. It's pretty well known by now, or at least I thought it was, that TA wasn't taking direction for Langsdorf very well. He was channeling his inner Farve(who he spent time with last summer) instead and tried to be a gun slinger. Once he finally decided he f'd up, after the regular season, and admitted it he looked different in the Bowl game. Once he decided to finally listen to Langsdorf for the bowl game weren't as many crazy passes, better game management, used his legs more instead of trying to force throws. So, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Don't blame TA being selfish on Langsdorf. Langsdorf should bench his QB if the QB does not follow directions. If one player gets away with not being a team player, more will follow. Was Ryker a team player when he skipped summer workouts? This is not just about TA. Players must follow the coaches decisions. Why did Ryker skip? Are summer workouts mandatory? Totally agree, however these players were brought in by other coaches and been with them the last couple years. So there will be an adjustment period that will take place 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'd take Beck over Langsdorf any day. For a QB genius he sure did a sh**ty job with Armstrong. It's pretty well known by now, or at least I thought it was, that TA wasn't taking direction for Langsdorf very well. He was channeling his inner Farve(who he spent time with last summer) instead and tried to be a gun slinger. Once he finally decided he f'd up, after the regular season, and admitted it he looked different in the Bowl game. Once he decided to finally listen to Langsdorf for the bowl game weren't as many crazy passes, better game management, used his legs more instead of trying to force throws. So, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Don't blame TA being selfish on Langsdorf. Langsdorf should bench his QB if the QB does not follow directions. If one player gets away with not being a team player, more will follow. Was Ryker a team player when he skipped summer workouts? Do you know the exact details of why he wasn't there? NO, I'm not talking about message board rumors. Until we know that, I'm not sure we can judge the actions of last summer. Quote Link to comment
Waterloohusker26 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'd take Beck over Langsdorf any day. For a QB genius he sure did a sh**ty job with Armstrong. It's pretty well known by now, or at least I thought it was, that TA wasn't taking direction for Langsdorf very well. He was channeling his inner Farve(who he spent time with last summer) instead and tried to be a gun slinger. Once he finally decided he f'd up, after the regular season, and admitted it he looked different in the Bowl game. Once he decided to finally listen to Langsdorf for the bowl game weren't as many crazy passes, better game management, used his legs more instead of trying to force throws. So, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Don't blame TA being selfish on Langsdorf. Langsdorf should bench his QB if the QB does not follow directions. If one player gets away with not being a team player, more will follow. Was Ryker a team player when he skipped summer workouts? Do you know the exact details of why he wasn't there? NO, I'm not talking about message board rumors. Until we know that, I'm not sure we can judge the actions of last summer. Whether you know the reason or I know the reason. Fact is he wasn't there. What are you his dad trying to defend him? Quote Link to comment
BRV920 Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 I know Rykers dad and I know what happened. Trust me it had nothing to do with a bad attitude. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Take Abdullah away from Beck in 2015.... Yeah, imagine that dumpster fire. So Beck doesn't get credit for any degree of Ameer's success? Nope Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Taylor Martinez developed By Calhoun... O'Briens pt coach Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So Langdorf developed Armstrong this season? Still throws off his back foot, still makes bad decisions in the passing game, and still won't throw the ball away instead of taking a sack. Sorry I'm not impressed with Langsdorf and don't even get me started on his play calling. Did you miss the part about where TA basically didn't listen to him most of the year. How can you help someone if they will not listen to you? Just like me trying to help you understand, but you not listening. So Langs had one year with him and Beck had how many?? Depends on how you want to look at it. Beck was here when TA was a True Freshman and then he was kind of thrown in as a redshirt freshman and then the sophomore year. So the one on one time Beck spent with TA with Martinez still on the team leads me to believe it was about the same amount of time as Langsdorf this year. No, Beck had 3 years and Langsdorf only 1. You can't just dismiss the RS year and his RFr. year, Beck's job was to develop him through out that time as well. Not to mention that TA started the majority of the year his RFr. year so essentially Beck had him for 2 full years as a Starter vs. Langsdorf's 1 year with TA as the Starter. TA just hasn't progressed to this point as we all had hoped for whatever reason. Lets just hope the light goes on fully his final year. I can do whatever I want. I am the 2016 Huskerboard Defensive Coordinator. Didn't get my vote Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Taylor Martinez developed By Calhoun... O'Briens pt coach This is more promising than Langs "developing him IMO. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Taylor Martinez developedBy Calhoun... O'Briens pt coach This is more promising than Langs "developing him IMO. Total BS and just a comment to try and stab Neb. Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Taylor Martinez developedBy Calhoun... O'Briens pt coach This is more promising than Langs "developing him IMO. Total BS and just a comment to try and stab Neb. Not at all. Calhoun has a heck of a resume. Martinez improved dramatically. Very promising that POB has been and will probably continue to work with him...... Quick look at some of Calhoun's guys: http://armedanddangerousfootball.com/#alumni Quote Link to comment
RedRedJarvisRedwine Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Taylor Martinez developed Apps! 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 TIL people still think Tim Beck called the plays at Ohio State... Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 TIL people still think Tim Beck called the plays at Ohio State... well, he did lol Quote Link to comment
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