Cases of Election Fraud

[BlitzFirst 3,161]

Wait...so Trump winning Texas was a Fraud?

 

 

 

[Archy1221 2,088]

4 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Pains me? What this woman allegedly did is wrong. I support whatever punishment comes her way. Doesn't change that PV has a long history of fraud and propaganda. One time they finally got one, doesn't negate all the other terrible s#!t they've done in the past.

One time   PBS just made a firing decision yesterday based on PV.  CNN also says hi

[FrantzHardySwag 3,643]

2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

One time   PBS just made a firing decision yesterday based on PV.  CNN also says hi

I really don't want to take the time to explain to you why PV/O'Keefe are f#&%ing awful. I figure it won't change your mind anyways. 

[Enhance 7,171]

Maintaining integrity in our elections is pretty critical to the democratic process, so I support honest attempts to do so.

 

What I won't do is lose perspective or try to adjust the narrative into something it isn't. O'Keefe is making a living off of bad mouthing those he considers to be poor excuses for journalists while hyperbolizing one case of election fraud. Voting irregularities or "fraud," if you will, happen every election. But, to this point, journalists, lawyers, and people a lot smarter than most of us here have been unable to uncover anything to the levels that some people wish to claim.

 

This doesn't make voter fraud cases irrelevant, but it would be irresponsible to make a mountain out of a mole hill until there are facts to prove otherwise.

[knapplc 40,892]

I get a kick out of O'Keefe complaining about "narrative" in his... narrative.

[Archy1221 2,088]

2 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Maintaining integrity in our elections is pretty critical to the democratic process, so I support honest attempts to do so.

 

What I won't do is lose perspective or try to adjust the narrative into something it isn't. O'Keefe is making a living off of bad mouthing those he considers to be poor excuses for journalists while hyperbolizing one case of election fraud. Voting irregularities or "fraud," if you will, happen every election. But, to this point, journalists, lawyers, and people a lot smarter than most of us here have been unable to uncover anything to the levels that some people wish to claim.

 

This doesn't make voter fraud cases irrelevant, but it would be irresponsible to make a mountain out of a mole hill until there are facts to prove otherwise.

I for one am not trying to adjust the narrative either.  If I was trying to change a narrative, I wouldn’t have picked a case from TX.  This thread is about cases of election fraud and one has just been charged.  
 

It’s not my job to defend PV, but to his credit this type of voter fraud is the absolute hardest to prove, nothing else comes even close.  If no one exposes it, then how does one attempt to stop it?  
 

 

[Enhance 7,171]

10 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

 If no one exposes it, then how does one attempt to stop it?  

Agreed. You need people who want to find it looking for it.

 

I just don't like O'Keefe's narratives or attempts to discredit others as if he's doing something that nobody else is. If this case leads to a conviction, credit where credit is due, but there are a lot of people in his mentions screaming about widespread election fraud and he does little to combat that type of rhetoric... virtually ever.

[knapplc 40,892]

46 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

If no one exposes it, then how does one attempt to stop it?

 

He said, on Page 20 of a thread dedicated to journalists exposing election fraud.

 

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[Archy1221 2,088]

1 hour ago, Enhance said:

Agreed. You need people who want to find it looking for it.

 

I just don't like O'Keefe's narratives or attempts to discredit others as if he's doing something that nobody else is. If this case leads to a conviction, credit where credit is due, but there are a lot of people in his mentions screaming about widespread election fraud and he does little to combat that type of rhetoric... virtually ever.

He could definitely do a better job of that for sure.   My hope with this case in particular is that it shines a light on harvesting on the loopholes that allow it to happen.  

[Archy1221 2,088]

38 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

He said, on Page 20 of a thread dedicated to journalists exposing election fraud.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

Very mature comment.  I don’t feel the need to read through 20 pages of commentary. If you or anyone else posting in this thread wants to lead me to the page showing me other journalists in this thread that have uncovered ballot harvesting, I would be glad to read it.  Otherwise, this would be new and therefor no one talking about it but me. 

[knapplc 40,892]

16 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

I don’t feel the need to read through 20 pages of commentary.

 

Then you really can't complain that the information in this thread is not in this thread, can you?

 

 

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32 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Then you really can't complain that the information in this thread is not in this thread, can you?

 

 

Sure I can because  I did.  The information very well might not be in the thread. 

[funhusker 3,761]

2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Sure I can because  I did.  The information very well might not be in the thread. 

It is.

 

A person CAN take the position "the Earth may very well be flat", but it just makes them stupid.

[Archy1221 2,088]

14 minutes ago, funhusker said:

It is.

 

A person CAN take the position "the Earth may very well be flat", but it just makes them stupid.

Welp, 20 pages of scanning and ballot harvesting only mentioned by me?!?  Seems I’m right 

[RedDenver 7,282]

6 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Welp, 20 pages of scanning and ballot harvesting only mentioned by me?!?  Seems I’m right 

Again, "ballot harvesting" is NOT election fraud.

 

It's like saying that the mail carrier is committing mail theft for delivering packages.