airboose Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Michigan hired Jim Harbaugh about three weeks after Nebraska hired Mike Riley. I would contend that Nebraska has as good or better facilities than Michigan, as good or better financial support and NU was left with as good or arguably better players as Michigan. So how is it, that Michigan became an instant contender for the conference and four-team playoff the minute Harbaugh arrived? Is he that much better of a coach? Are Michigan's players that far superior to Nebraska in two recruiting classes? 1 Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 They were still getting guys like peppers before Harbaugh was there. Of course they're more talented 3 Quote Link to comment
Red_Payne Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I would argue that Michigan was left with the better talent. Especialy on the fronts... Look at their line; look at NU's line... you can see a major gap in talent 2 Quote Link to comment
Magnus Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 There's an even bigger gap in coaching between Michigan and NU, than a talent gap. Don Brown is one of the best defensive minds in football. NU fans refuse to acknowledge that coaching matters; the knee jerk reaction is ALWAYS BLAME THE PLAYERS. There was not a 59 point talent gap last night. NU treated the Wisconsin loss like a moral victory and thought everything would be fine against Ohio State. The coaches didn't have the team ready to play tonight. There are deficiencies on both lines, but they aren't as bad as we showed. BOTTOM LINE -- The team didn't show up mentally, and Nebraska has problems since the 1999 season with this. 3 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Better players and Harbaugh is an elite coach that demands excellence. According to 247 in the last 5 recruiting cycles Michigan has brought in 62 4 or 5 star recruits. Nebraska has brought in 26. So far they have 11 in their 2017 class and we have 3. Better pick it up. Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Because he's a better coach than Riley. It's ok to admit that people. 3 Quote Link to comment
Magnus Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Other schools can find practice time to develop more than just five starting 5 offensive linemen -- Riley's lifetime buddy Cavanaugh can't. Other schools don't hire gym teacher buddy D-line coaching hacks, who then run off their best D tackles and don't recruit replacements -- Riley hired Hank Hughes. John Parrella will do a good job on both accounts but he should have been hired before Hank Hughes. Quote Link to comment
marko polo Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hoke recruited at an elite level despite his coaching faults. They manned up and gave a blank check to a proven coach. This^ I just don't see us doing this. We will be the3-6th or worse best team in the conference for the foreseeable future because of it. 3 Quote Link to comment
marko polo Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Better players and Harbaugh is an elite coach that demands excellence. According to 247 in the last 5 recruiting cycles Michigan has brought in 62 4 or 5 star recruits. Nebraska has brought in 26. So far they have 11 in their 2017 class and we have 3. Better pick it up. Think about this really think about it.Take emotion out of it, do you see us even coming close to matching this? Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Because Michigan didn't settle for anything. They decided they would pay whatever amount of money they needed to to get the best coach they possibly could, and they already had a roster of elite talent waiting to be utilized. Quote Link to comment
fb30 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Say we bring in 3- 5 stars and like 7-4 stars next year. That would be a phenomenal class right? The problem is Ohio st and Michigan do that every year. No way we sustain that. We will never equal there talent. We have to play to the strengths of the players we can get. Right? Help me understand? 1 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Better players and Harbaugh is an elite coach that demands excellence. According to 247 in the last 5 recruiting cycles Michigan has brought in 62 4 or 5 star recruits. Nebraska has brought in 26. So far they have 11 in their 2017 class and we have 3. Better pick it up. Think about this really think about it.Take emotion out of it, do you see us even coming close to matching this? No but we have to close the gap some. Getting 40 over the course of 5 years would be a large improvement. Quote Link to comment
Magnus Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Recruiting isn't just about acquisition of physically talented players. Recruiting involves matching your program's values and style with kids who are both talented, and importantly, have room to become even more talented in 2-3 years with proper training and coaching. That's harder to do. Plus, you have to recruit guys who fit that profile who want to be at your school for the right reasons. Recruits who demand promises of immediate playing time, who expect to go "three and done" and hit "da league," or rack up big stats regardless of whether that style results in wins, aren't ever going to make Nebraska great. One of those players? Fine. Two? Then it better be a serious need. More than that per class? That's not what will make NU good long-term. In fact, it will diminish the advantages NU does have -- Nebraska's advantage has always been its local character and tradition. Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Michigan hired Jim Harbaugh about three weeks after Nebraska hired Mike Riley. I would contend that Nebraska has as good or better facilities than Michigan, as good or better financial support and NU was left with as good or arguably better players as Michigan. So how is it, that Michigan became an instant contender for the conference and four-team playoff the minute Harbaugh arrived? Is he that much better of a coach? Are Michigan's players that far superior to Nebraska in two recruiting classes? This is just incredibly uninformed, they have far superior talent and far superior coaching. Even if Harbaugh and Riley were even, which they aren't, the superior talent would be your answer. 4 Quote Link to comment
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