TGHusker Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 At least Trump gave it his best effort. And I mean that sincerely. That is so funny....... No wait, that is so SAD Link to comment
zoogs Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just short? Let's remember, then, what GOP senators supported this the next time they try to claim a shred of credibility. "Let Obamacare fail" is a funny way of offloading responsibility for sabotage. They will hurt people out of spite just to have the chance to hurt more people even more. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 the trump pic reminded me of this: http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/presidential-elections/videos/tank-ride?m=528e394da93ae&s=undefined&f=1&free=false <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.history.com/embed/21153272" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> History Dept. Dukakis and the Tank The inside story of the worst campaign photo op ever. By Josh King November 17, 2013 Matt Bennett can still hear the reporters laughing, all 90 of them. He can still picture Sam Donaldson doubled over, guffawing, on a riser that looked out over a dusty field in suburban Detroit. Bennett was a 23-year-old political rookie in 1988 when he was sent to a General Dynamics facility in Sterling Heights, Mich., to organize a campaign stop for Democratic presidential nominee Michael Dukakis: a ride in a 68-ton M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank. The visit, meant to bolster the candidate’s credibility as a future commander-in-chief, would go down as one of the worst campaign backfires in history. Following the event, after the reporters’ laughter subsided and Dukakis’s entourage was preparing to leave, one of the candidate’s traveling aides approached Bennett. “Nice event, Matt” he deadpanned. “It may have cost us the election. But beside that, it was great.” Story Continued Below * * * Dukakis and the tank. The image of the diminutive Massachusetts governor pretending to be something he wasn’t and, in the process, making a fool of himself on Sept. 13, 1988, has haunted me, as it has every other advance person who has been entrusted—for a few hours or even a few minutes—with a candidate’s fate. Like Bennett, I too worked on the Dukakis campaign, and we went on to serve together in the Clinton White House. I sat in countless meetings in which some smartass warned that a stop on the president’s schedule had the makings of a “Dukakis in the tank moment.” The caution usually came when some type of costume was involved, and the tank ride is still to this day invoked anytime politicians decline to put hats on their heads—as President Obama did earlier this year when he was handed a Navy football helmet but refused to try it on. (“You don’t put stuff on your head if you’re president,” he said. “That’s politics 101.”) But the story of the disastrous tank ride also endures as an example of the broader laws of unintended consequences in political stagecraft. And that, to me, has always been the most fascinating part of this disaster story, a mystery to be solved: Why had an event that everyone now agrees was such a terrible idea ever happened in the first place? Twenty-five years after the notorious disaster, I set out this summer—with help from Steve Silverman, a fellow advance man from 1988 and a longtime Clinton colleague—to discover what had set the infamous tank ride in motion and why no one had put a stop to it. In more than 20 lengthy interviews, I found a story that surprised me: The truth is, many of Dukakis’s advisers did try to forestall the tank ride even while others were convinced the photo op was essential. They argued with each other over it, sent warnings back to headquarters, huddled in anxious meetings and even dispatched an expert fixer, all to no avail. That some tried to stop it but couldn’t is, in its own way, a very human story about simple inertia, the difficulty of changing course once a plan is set in motion. But it’s a story about accountability, too—a failure of leadership that led a candidate who was busy proclaiming his technocratic “competence” to run a myopic and incompetent campaign. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Just short? Let's remember, then, what GOP senators supported this the next time they try to claim a shred of credibility. "Let Obamacare fail" is a funny way of offloading responsibility for sabotage. They will hurt people out of spite just to have the chance to hurt more people even more. Their ability to do so is directly tied to their ability to effectively message that the ACA is already failing, in a death spiral, etc., when it is not. The responsibility again lies with us to make it known that the failure or success of the ACA at this point depends solely on Trump and his team at this point. Link to comment
Red Five Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 This is an amazing read in hindsight. Trump talking health care from January 15th Trump vows "insurance for everybody" in Obamacare replacement plan Trump said his plan for replacing most aspects of Obama’s health-care law is all but finished. Although he was coy about its details — “lower numbers, much lower deductibles” — he said he is ready to unveil it alongside Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). “It’s very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven’t put it in quite yet but we’re going to be doing it soon,” Trump said. He noted that he is waiting for his nominee for secretary of health and human services, Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), to be confirmed. That decision rests with the Senate Finance Committee, which hasn’t scheduled a hearing. Trump’s declaration that his replacement plan is ready comes after many Republicans — moderates and conservatives — expressed anxiety last week about the party’s lack of a formal proposal as they held votes on repealing the law. Once his plan is made public, Trump said, he is confident that it could get enough votes to pass in both chambers. He declined to discuss how he would court wary Democrats. “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.” People covered under the law “can expect to have great health care. It will be in a much simplified form. Much less expensive and much better.” 4 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Let's not gloss over something here. Not only was he not working on the Healthcare bill because hew as at a golf tournament and playing with fire trucks.....but he had Pence their with him instead of on Capital Hill working on Healthcare. This administration obviously totally believes this is what they should be doing while the debate is going on. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 And Trump blames .......... The Democrats http://www.newsmax.com/US/trump-twitter-healthcare-democrats/2017/07/18/id/802238/ Here is what one Trump backer posted in the comments section. This is really telling of the brainwash. At first I thought the guy was being sarcastic but no, he is a true believer: Roger Ron L • 9 minutes ago Ron L, You are right about the not acting part, he just does! If you have to act like you are a president, you shouldn't be but that's not President Trump! Greatest president and leader in the history of the world! DONALD TRUMP IS MY PRESIDENT and PRESIDENT for all AMERICANS! He has built a cabinet of carefully selected advisers that can only help him make America, safer, stronger, more prosperous and greater, greater than ever before! President Trump is so right so often about so much, that it is unbelievable! He is an unstoppable genius!Sixteen Republican challengers couldn't stop him, the lying, fake news mainstream media couldn't stop him, adversaries in his own party couldn't stop him, the Democrats and Hillary Clinton with her underhanded cheating and doing everything she could to rig the election including being fed the questions likely to be asked before the debates, couldn't stop him and no one is going to stop him!President Trump did more in his first eight days than Obama did in eight years! 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 GO DO YOUR JOB........while I play with fire trucks. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 This is brilliant. Repeal a bill that the majority of Americans like with no plan in place to replace it. THEN...and only THEN......can they then come up with a replacement. The only reason this is being brought up is to force the issue. If Obamacare is not in place anymore, then they don't have to fight the thought that people like Obamacare. Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Republicans have focused their entire political strategy on replacing Obamacare for the past eight years. And after all that time, presumably to come up with a plan that is knock-your-socks-off good, they come up with this hot mess that fails to get even Republican support in the Senate (and many governors were firmly against it, too). So, on this momentous day in the current political era, a day when this news should be front and center, what does State News run as their lead story? You are totally going to believe this... Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Unbelievable....actually....unfortunately it is. Three stories below the lead are just as bad. I had to visit Foxnews.com just to confirm.....yep.....this is their front page. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 And Trump blames .......... The Democrats http://www.newsmax.com/US/trump-twitter-healthcare-democrats/2017/07/18/id/802238/ Here is what one Trump backer posted in the comments section. This is really telling of the brainwash. At first I thought the guy was being sarcastic but no, he is a true believer: Roger Ron L • 9 minutes ago Ron L, You are right about the not acting part, he just does! If you have to act like you are a president, you shouldn't be but that's not President Trump! Greatest president and leader in the history of the world! DONALD TRUMP IS MY PRESIDENT and PRESIDENT for all AMERICANS! He has built a cabinet of carefully selected advisers that can only help him make America, safer, stronger, more prosperous and greater, greater than ever before! President Trump is so right so often about so much, that it is unbelievable! He is an unstoppable genius! Sixteen Republican challengers couldn't stop him, the lying, fake news mainstream media couldn't stop him, adversaries in his own party couldn't stop him, the Democrats and Hillary Clinton with her underhanded cheating and doing everything she could to rig the election including being fed the questions likely to be asked before the debates, couldn't stop him and no one is going to stop him! President Trump did more in his first eight days than Obama did in eight years! Trump diehards honestly sound like they brainwashed victims of North Korean propaganda at this point. Note how often the superlative is used. Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 How many of those commenters are real people, and how many work in a Russian intel operation? 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Good lord, talk about creating a false equivalence. But I guess Fox News really is going all in on the notion that the Clintons were secretly the ones guilty of collusion with an enemy, eh? They've been pushing that lie about them colluding with Ukraine for the better part of the last week. The Clintons are effectively a carrot at the end of a stick to the people calling the shots in the conservative media universe. Something you can use to work people up into just enough of a lather to keep them angry with the blinders on. 1 Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 "It is easier to criticize than to to better" - Swiss Proverb "It takes sweat to work on things, but it only takes saliva to criticize things" - Taiwanese Proverb "Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk: we must act big." - Theodore Roosevelt "Look at the tyranny of party-- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty-- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes-- and which turns voters into chattels, slaves, rabbits; and all the while, their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction..." - Mark Twain 2 Link to comment
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