if we go 5-7 in 2020, is frost the coach in 2021?

[Good Tweetman]

1 minute ago, TheSker said:

Frost expected to also.

That’s great! But he didn’t. And if it happens again in year 3, the deciding year for all coaching tenures, that’ll be all she wrote.

[Cdog923]

3 hours ago, Ziebol said:

I don’t know how you can say he hasn’t. He came in and crapped all over the previous staff, which everyone loved, and has yet to put up better results. You can say culture and buy in all you want, but this years schedule was a joke and he failed to get to a bowl. Our “star” qb has regressed to the point that people want our back up in, he mismanaged redshirts very poorly this year, his recruiting has taken a steep nosedive where we are now relying on low ranked Juco products who in their own words are saving a spot with us, our special teams is the worst I have ever seen, OLB play and recruiting is abysmal, ILB recruiting and play is abysmal. There has been no progress for this team since Riley left and Frost entered except they have the best Monday practices in the history of college football. 

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

No.  It simply doesn't work that way.  Wins and losses matter.

 

Everyone that is in the power structure of the football program understands that this is multi-YEAR project. Scott is going to have all the time he finds necessary to build the program how he wants to, from recruiting to development and even to facilities; it's going to be a process from top to bottom. He will leave under his own volition as long as the current administration (and all of its arms) are still in place; it will be another massive cleaning of the entire AD for him to be fired. It's not hard to understand, you just have to accept it.

 

3 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 I don't know about that. What if the next three years go something like this:

2020: 6-6

2021: 5-7

2022: 7-5

You don't think he'll be flirting with getting fired?

 

 

Those win totals would be fantastic, given what is currently on the roster and the schedules that will be played. 

 

[Celsus]

1 minute ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Everyone that is in the power structure of the football program understands that this is multi-YEAR project. Scott is going to have all the time he finds necessary to build the program how he wants to, from recruiting to development and even to facilities; it's going to be a process from top to bottom. He will leave under his own volition as long as the current administration (and all of its arms) are still in place; it will be another massive cleaning of the entire AD for him to be fired. It's not hard to understand, you just have to accept it.

 

 

Those win totals would be fantastic, given what is currently on the roster and the schedules that will be played. 

 

Oh come on. That is a$$. 

[Cdog923]

1 minute ago, Celsus said:

Oh come on. That is a$$. 

 

It's absolutely not, Weekend Poster. 

[Good Tweetman]

Just now, Cdog923 said:

 

It's absolutely not, Weekend Poster. 

A 500 record over the next three seasons would be incredibly unacceptable.

[TheSker]

4 minutes ago, Good Tweetman said:

That’s great! But he didn’t. And if it happens again in year 3, the deciding year for all coaching tenures, that’ll be all she wrote.

I can promise you are speaking about that which you do not know.

[Cdog923]

1 minute ago, Good Tweetman said:

A 500 record over the next three seasons would be incredibly unacceptable.

 

For anyone with unrealistic expectations, sure. Given who will be on the roster (without knowledge of recruiting) and who is on the schedule, it's much more a reality than winning the division. 

[Good Tweetman]

2 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

For anyone with unrealistic expectations, sure. Given who will be on the roster (without knowledge of recruiting) and who is on the schedule, it's much more a reality than winning the division. 

Unrealistic expectations? Goodness, man, you are saying that a record of 27-33 over five seasons would be good. No. That would be abysmal. And a clear sign Frost would need to be fired.

 

Now, 7-5, 9-3, 9-3? That would be worth keeping around.

[Cdog923]

1 minute ago, Good Tweetman said:

Unrealistic expectations? Goodness, man, you are saying that a record of 27-33 over five seasons would be good. No. That would be abysmal. And a clear sign Frost would need to be fired.

 

Now, 7-5, 9-3, 9-3? That would be worth keeping around.

 

You'd better prepare yourself, because it's not going to happen. At least not next year. 

[Good Tweetman]

Just now, Cdog923 said:

 

You'd better prepare yourself, because it's not going to happen. At least not next year. 

If that’s the case then we really need to start looking for a new HC. This is absurd. I understand giving a guy time but 5 years of absolute mediocrity is not acceptable.

[Cdog923]

Just now, Good Tweetman said:

If that’s the case then we really need to start looking for a new HC. This is absurd. I understand giving a guy time but 5 years of absolute mediocrity is not acceptable.

 

Go ahead and find 7 wins on next year's schedule. 

[Good Tweetman]

Just now, Cdog923 said:

 

Go ahead and find 7 wins on next year's schedule. 

Oh I don’t see that. That’s why I’m on the “Doubt Frost is the Answer” ship. My point is that your prognostication = fire him.

[Igetbored216]

Will he be coach? Yes, he isn't getting fired anytime soon. 

 

I guess the thing I find the most troubling is his strategy. He stated he wants the defense to hold the other team to 30 and under, with the idea the offense will score more than 30 to win the game. 

 

This might have worked in the AAC. It's not going to work in the Big Ten. The coaching is much better, and the defenses are much better. Getting consistently over 30 is going to be difficult. 

[Good Tweetman]

Here’s the thing: I want Frost to make me eat crow. Just heaping piles of crow. I want him to make me die from eating too much crow.

 

I am simply skeptical at this point.

[The Dude]

18 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Everyone that is in the power structure of the football program understands that this is multi-YEAR project. Scott is going to have all the time he finds necessary to build the program how he wants to, from recruiting to development and even to facilities; it's going to be a process from top to bottom. He will leave under his own volition as long as the current administration (and all of its arms) are still in place; it will be another massive cleaning of the entire AD for him to be fired. It's not hard to understand, you just have to accept it.

 

 

Those win totals would be fantastic, given what is currently on the roster and the schedules that will be played. 

 

 

Frost has done nothing to prove he deserves an unlimited amount of time regardless of the results.   That's simply not reality, so no, nobody has to accept that.