knapplc Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Omaha fan said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/it-is-unclear-whether-big-ten-presidents-formally-voted-to-nix-2020-college-football-season/amp/ cbs sports reporting warren pushed for fall season to be cancelled From this article: Quote News accounts from last week all refer to a "vote" being taken by Big Ten presidents on Aug. 11 ahead of the conference's announcement. Warren, when pressed during an interview on Big Ten Network, said the league was not unanimous in its decision. So yeah, there's a lot to be unhappy with Warren regarding the messaging of all this (or, as Franklin is alluding to today, the lack of messaging), but Warren is not the person who made the decision to cancel football. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Omaha fan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 According to several sources now, warren did lead the charge to cancel football with one credible source saying he railroaded the decision with no vote. He’s not paid to be just a ballot counter, he is the thought leader of the league 2 Quote Link to comment
Omaha fan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 For those not convinced that Warren has totally botched his tenure so far as commissioner, I highly recommend you read this https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/moving-forward-is-kevin-warren-the-right-person-to-lead-the-b1g/amp/ 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Omaha fan said: According to several sources now, warren did lead the charge to cancel football wit one source saying he railroaded the decision with no vote. Kevin Warren can't make Big Ten presidents, who are in charge of multi-billion dollar enterprises, do something they don't want to do. This is nonsense, it doesn't matter how many "sources" are saying this. Think about what this is saying. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, knapplc said: Kevin Warren can't make Big Ten presidents, who are in charge of multi-billion dollar enterprises, do something they don't want to do. This is nonsense, it doesn't matter how many "sources" are saying this. Think about what this is saying. Maybe they didn't know what they wanted to do so they followed the loudest voice in the room. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, knapplc said: From this article: So yeah, there's a lot to be unhappy with Warren regarding the messaging of all this (or, as Franklin is alluding to today, the lack of messaging), but Warren is not the person who made the decision to cancel football. I think we can put the "vote" thing to rest as it didn't happen. Minnesota and Penn State's presidents have said as much and that's a direct source. Now whether Warren pushed the decision or not and what sway he had is an open question, but there was definitely not a formal vote. 4 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, Mavric said: Maybe they didn't know what they wanted to do so they followed the loudest voice in the room. Maybe Warren had kidnapped their kittens and was holding them hostage to force them to bend to his maniacal will. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, WyoHusker56 said: I think we can put the "vote" thing to rest as it didn't happen. Minnesota and Penn State's presidents have said as much and that's a direct source. Now whether Warren pushed the decision or not and what sway he had is an open question, but there was definitely not a formal vote. No, they did not say a vote did not happen. They said they held a deliberative process and a decision was reached. Saying that wasn't a vote is semantics. Further, you only heard from Minnesota's president, not Penn State's - that was their AD, who said she didn't know if a vote happened. Quote Link to comment
Omaha fan Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mavric said: Read this warren has kept the coaches completely in the dark. That’s why they are doing their own conference calls without him and guys like Brohm are coming up with spring football plans read this- it tells it all in detail https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/moving-forward-is-kevin-warren-the-right-person-to-lead-the-b1g/amp/ 3 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, Husker03 said: The plot thickens.... Kevin Warren is actually a Manchurian Commissioner working for the NFL. He is trying to destroy college football as we know it and steer football fans towards the NFL. Think of it this way: Roger Goodell = Putin, Kevin Warren = Trump I better insert one of these someone may take it seriously and get offended. Seriously, I think the B1G acted hastily and the lack of accountability / disclosure / transparency back to the fans, players, coaches, and parents is appalling. A winter season starting in early January is not that much later than a delayed fall season. The B1G could have figured out a 'bubble' schedule instead of jumping off the cliff so soon. 1 Quote Link to comment
WyoHusker56 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, knapplc said: No, they did not say a vote did not happen. They said they held a deliberative process and a decision was reached. Saying that wasn't a vote is semantics. Further, you only heard from Minnesota's president, not Penn State's - that was their AD, who said she didn't know if a vote happened. Ok my bad on the Penn State then, but a "deliberative process" does not equal a vote. The loudest voice in the room wins in a deliberative process and it's likely that some schools just went along for the ride as they didn't know which way to go. This should have come down to each school saying yes or no and a formal vote count with each school making their opinion known. Also, the Minnesota president did say there wasn't a vote. Quote "We didn't vote, per se. It's a deliberative process where we came to a decision together," Voting and arguing to a decision that others go along with is pretty different. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
C-4 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, knapplc said: He's no more credible than Chip Brown, who has had some spectacular fails with his "insider" info. And what do we "know about Warren" now? Look what OSU fans say about him. He’s legit. 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Omaha fan said: Read this warren has kept the coaches completely in the dark. That’s why they are doing their own conference calls without him and guys like Brohm are coming up with spring football plans read this- it tells it all in detail https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/moving-forward-is-kevin-warren-the-right-person-to-lead-the-b1g/amp/ good article - I'm also highly disappointed in the leadership at most of the affiliated universities. The Univ presidents/chancellors should have been filling in the leadership void. Outside of Nebraska and maybe a could of others, we hear crickets. If indeed Warren drove the decision, then it speaks volumes about the lack of a back bone at the highest level of the B1G - basically placing the whole decision on Warren to make - if the decision ends up being the wrong decision, then the presidents can remain blameless. I wonder if they fire Warren as a result? 2 Quote Link to comment
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