WOW, I have been away for awhile and this conversation is one reason too stay away. First I have to say that I was raised by a parent that did not cuss. She taught me that it was an ignorant language. Think what you want. Its not that I don't cuss, never in front of my kids, but there is a time and place and I would hope that, the students of UW realize this when someone drops an F bomb on their 6 year old child. "Hey! That's OK have another Falstaff." Ignorant. As for Bromontana's comment about L.P. and Dr. Tom's win at all cost, lets see, the score was....oh yeah 63 pts. They really needed L.P. to win. It wasn't about giving him an out at all, was it. It was all about winning, again, ignorant. You see, it comes full circle.