dylan Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 wasn't the 2005 class rated very highly??? How did that turn out. Sure we got some great players but more than half of them left early. Cally was actually a pretty good recruiter believe it or not. He just couldn't quite put it together on the field where it counts. he may have been a "pretty good" recruiter, but even going by recruiting rankings (which is far from the correct measure for recruiting success), he wasn't significantly better than our current staff (or really even solich). people forget that he only had the one highly ranked class. Quote Link to comment
Nexus Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 wasn't the 2005 class rated very highly??? How did that turn out. Sure we got some great players but more than half of them left early. Cally was actually a pretty good recruiter believe it or not. He just couldn't quite put it together on the field where it counts. he may have been a "pretty good" recruiter, but even going by recruiting rankings (which is far from the correct measure for recruiting success), he wasn't significantly better than our current staff (or really even solich). people forget that he only had the one highly ranked class. That was my point. So we agree. Quote Link to comment
General Blackshirt Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Pelini is going to say the same thing every year. "We've got some guys coming in that we're excited about. The coaching staff feels these guys can fit into our system well, come in here, and compete." Blah blah blah. Pelini won't tell us anything. Quote Link to comment
Alex 4.0 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bo will make his own 5 stars. Its fun to say"we have more stars than you"... but as long the coaches get their players, we will be fine. Next year is shaping up to be a big one in recruiting. Quote Link to comment
Captain K Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I wonder how much Chris Williams' signing helped our ranking last year? It really doesn't matter 2 squirts where the class is ranked. Do they end up winning a Championship. That is something no ranking system can tell you. Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Pelini is going to say the same thing every year. "We've got some guys coming in that we're excited about. The coaching staff feels these guys can fit into our system well, come in here, and compete." Blah blah blah. Pelini won't tell us anything. You missed carlfense's point, he isn't referring to what the staff says about the recruits. He is saying that he trusts their judgement in evaluating players to recruit over the recruiting services. If Bo and Co offer a guy that recruiting services aren't seemingly high on, I trust their ability to evaluate talent over Rivals or Scout. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. Quote Link to comment
miamihrrcns2001 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been rated. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Quote Link to comment
EZ-E Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been ranked. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Osborne brought in talent. Our recruiting classes were highly reguarded when he was here. The reason everyone makes this argument is because he always downplayed the hype as does Bo. Quote Link to comment
miamihrrcns2001 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been ranked. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Actually, we regularly had a top 15 recruiting class during our glory days, we could pick anyone we wanted basically. Thats what made the walk-on program so heralded, because they could play with the cream of the crop in terms of recruits an earn playing time as a walk-on. Also, I hate to say it, but most if not all of the players on this year's defense were Callahan recruits. I'm just saying that there is a place for recruiting rankings. I am by no means saying they should be followed to every last period or dot on the i, but they are a good GENERAL REPRESENTATION of a class' strength IMO. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been ranked. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Osborne brought in talent. Our recruiting classes were highly reguarded when he was here. The reason everyone makes this argument is because he always downplayed the hype as does Bo. Osborne recruited players with heart who also fit well with our scheme and his recruiting classes were never loaded with four and five star players like the Oklahoma's or the USC's of then or now. He also implemented the walk on program which I feel had everything do with our success. Quote Link to comment
miamihrrcns2001 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been ranked. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Osborne brought in talent. Our recruiting classes were highly reguarded when he was here. The reason everyone makes this argument is because he always downplayed the hype as does Bo. Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't really care if the class is top 25 or not. I'm way more concerned what the coaches do with the talent brought in. I'll take Pelini's evaluation of talent and work ethic over a recruiting site any day. Exactly. I'm pretty sure this years Texas starters from their recruiting class a few years ago owned ours from a couple of years back in terms of where they were ranked recruiting class wise. I love getting excited about recruiting but I think everyone forgets (see Ohio State as a year in year out example) that top notched recruiting classes do NOT equal year in year out success and/or National Championships. Pretty sure Oklahoma's recruiting class from the team we beat this year probably owned our's from a couple of years ago as well. When was the last team that won a championship that DIDN'T have a top 5 recruiting class recently... They may not translate into success immediately, but the teams that are getting them sure seem pretty solid on the field as well. JUST SAYING. So are you saying we have to have a top ranked recruiting class in order to win a National Championship? I think I know what my answer is anyway. Look back at our National championships. I don't remember a time when Nebraska's recruiting class, even in our glory days was routinely considered to be top five or even in the top 10 for that matter. If you want to make your judgment of how good a team is based solely on how well ranked their recruiting class is by all means please do so. This year's defense will rank as one of the best ever at Nebraska and arguably one of the best if not the best defense in all of college football this year and I'm pretty sure no one was expecting this if one were to only look at how our recent recruiting classes have been ranked. People have an obsession with rankings and lists and instead they competely forget about coaching, passion and player development all of which are intangibles that cannot be ranked. Osborne brought in talent. Our recruiting classes were highly reguarded when he was here. The reason everyone makes this argument is because he always downplayed the hype as does Bo. And stating that Osborne downplayed our recruiting classes is stating the painfully obvious! When did Osborne ever hype anything???? If you're going to talk about needing a highly ranked recruiting class to achieve success then I'm still not understanding your point. Of course Osborne brought in talent. Of course he downplayed it! That was his style and that's Pelini's style. He did not bring in highly ranked powerhouse recruiting classes on a regular basis however which is entirely my point. Quote Link to comment
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