NUance Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 KEEPING THEM HOMEHere's a percentage breakdown from the past three recruiting classes (2009-2011) showing how many four- and five-star prospects signed with an in-state school. Nebraska 100 percent (3 of 3) Wisconsin 100 percent (4 of 4) Alabama 88 percent (29 of 33) Michigan 75 percent (18 of 24) Mississippi 73 percent (22 of 30) Louisiana 68.5 percent (24 of 35) Iowa 67 percent (4 of 6) LINK It's great to see us at the top of this list. Too bad the state of Nebraska doesn't produce a dozen or so four/five star recruits per year. 1 Quote Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 haha from Nebraska, the only one that I can recall as a 4 or 5 star recruit was Baker Steinkuhler, and that was more than 3 years ago I think. Who else was a 4 or 5 star? Quote Link to comment
MinnwiscowaSker Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Baker was in the '08 class. I only found two in that range that were both four stars: Ryne Reeves and Andrew Rodriquez Quote Link to comment
Omaha-Husker Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 haha from Nebraska, the only one that I can recall as a 4 or 5 star recruit was Baker Steinkuhler, and that was more than 3 years ago I think. Who else was a 4 or 5 star? ARod, Reeves and Sterup. Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 ESPN Insider also had an article on worst programs for in-state recruits: 1. Arizona 2. G Tech 3. Stanford 4. Cal 5. NC St 6. Texas A&M 7. Oklahoma St. 8. Michigan 9. Illinois 10. Auburn Quote Link to comment
Comish Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Trevor Robinson would have been but that was farther back..... Quote Link to comment
robsker Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 KEEPING THEM HOMEHere's a percentage breakdown from the past three recruiting classes (2009-2011) showing how many four- and five-star prospects signed with an in-state school. Nebraska 100 percent (3 of 3) Wisconsin 100 percent (4 of 4) Alabama 88 percent (29 of 33) Michigan 75 percent (18 of 24) Mississippi 73 percent (22 of 30) Louisiana 68.5 percent (24 of 35) Iowa 67 percent (4 of 6) LINK It's great to see us at the top of this list. Too bad the state of Nebraska doesn't produce a dozen or so four/five star recruits per year. Wow. Those southern states generate so much in-state talent. How can schools compete against that? No wonder the SEc is so tough to contend with. Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Wow. Those southern states generate so much in-state talent. How can schools compete against that? No wonder the SEc is so tough to contend with. Compare their chart of States producing the most 'Rivals' 4 & 5 stars with the second one that shows the number of current NFL (as of 2010) players listed by the State from which they graduated HS. Interesting difference isn't it? Virtually every southern State is rated higher by Rivals than by NFL scouts conversely northern States are almost universally rated lower. Rivals: Florida 160 Texas 138 California 113 Georgia 74 Ohio 46 Louisiana 35 Alabama 33 South Carolina 32 North Carolina 31 Mississippi 30 Virginia 30 Pennsylvania 28 Maryland 26 Illinois 25 TSUN 24 Players in the NFL: (-2) California 211 (NC) Texas 181 (+2) Florida 177 (-1) Ohio 85 (+1) Georgia 80 (NC) Louisiana 68 (-5) Pennsylvania 56 (at least -7) New Jersey 55 (not in top 15 according to Rivals) (-6) TSUN 53 (+3) Alabama 50 (NC) Virginia 50 (+4) South Carolina 46 (-1) Illinois 43 (+5) North Carolina 42 (at least +5) Mississppi not in the top 14 NFL producers (at least +2) Maryland not in the top 14 NFL producers The number in parenthesis is the difference in overall standing on the Rivals list as compared to the NFL one. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 ^^ I'd say your NFL numbers pretty closely mirror the 4*/5* numbers. They look remarkably close to me, percentage wise. Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 ^^ I'd say your NFL numbers pretty closely mirror the 4*/5* numbers. They look remarkably close to me, percentage wise. Really? Rivals - Florida produces 40% more talent than California NFL - Cali produces 20% more players than Florida Rivals - Georgia produces 60% more talent than Ohio NFL - Ohio produces 6% more players than Georgia Rivals - South Carolina produces 14% more talent than PA NFL - Penn. produces 21% more players than SC Rivals - NC produces 30% more talent than TSUN NFL - TSUN produces 26% more players than NC Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Players in the NFL: (-2) California 211 (NC) Texas 181 (+2) Florida 177 (-1) Ohio 85 Maybe I misunderstood your stats. I took the above quote to mean that California produces 2 fewer (-2) NFL players than the number of 4*/5* players coming from California. Texas is even (NC). And Florida produces 2 more (+2) NFL players than the number of of 4*/5* players from Florida. Does it mean something else? Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 ^^ I'd say your NFL numbers pretty closely mirror the 4*/5* numbers. They look remarkably close to me, percentage wise. I would hope so. Seems like the NFL practice of prefering 'measurables' has worked its way down into the HS rating systems. Probably doesn't help that the majority of population centers are in warm weather at this point. Football culture is pretty engrained in those areas too so they are more polished at an early age. That lends to getting an extra star when someone is on the edge. Quote Link to comment
Muck Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Maybe I misunderstood your stats. I took the above quote to mean that California produces 2 fewer (-2) NFL players than the number of 4*/5* players coming from California. Texas is even (NC). And Florida produces 2 more (+2) NFL players than the number of of 4*/5* players from Florida. Does it mean something else? Sorry for not doing a better job of clarifying California is #1 at putting players into the NFL Rivals lists them as the #3 producer of 4/5 stars California is 2 spots lower on the Rivals list overall than the NFL one So (-2). Hope that helps. I would hope so. Seems like the NFL practice of prefering 'measurables' has worked its way down into the HS rating systems. Probably doesn't help that the majority of population centers are in warm weather at this point. Football culture is pretty engrained in those areas too so they are more polished at an early age. That lends to getting an extra star when someone is on the edge. Go & look at the actual numbers in the two charts. It shows that northern (and western) States are putting far more players into the NFL than southern based services like Rivals predict. Pennsylvania & TSUN are both ranked by Rivals as having fewer prospects than North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi & Virginia yet each State puts more players into the NFL than any of the previously listed southern ones. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Players in the NFL: (-2) California 211 (NC) Texas 181 (+2) Florida 177 (-1) Ohio 85 Maybe I misunderstood your stats. I took the above quote to mean that California produces 2 fewer (-2) NFL players than the number of 4*/5* players coming from California. Texas is even (NC). And Florida produces 2 more (+2) NFL players than the number of of 4*/5* players from Florida. Does it mean something else? I think the number in parenthesis is the difference in rank - e.g., California is ranked two spots lower in the Rivals list than in the NFL list, Florida is two spots higher in rivals, etc. Edit: Apparently I don't type fast enough. Edited January 31, 2012 by Mavric Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I see what you are saying Muck. It would be interesting to see some info on the next step from these numbers. Specifically, where they are from, where they go/went to school (stick with the state theme), and who they were drafted by. That would provide some regional context and probably some more head scratching. Is this information stored anywhere? The data analysis would be pretty simple. Quote Link to comment
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