IRS targets Tea Party

[carlfense]

However, please explain how that alleviates him from any responsibility of what happens while he is in charge?

 

Yes....I know he wasn't in charge when supposedly these things took place. That wasn't the point of my post.

You typed those sentences back to back?

 

The point was that you acted like there was absolutely nobody in the position. Obviously you didn't know that. But, I can understand why you would want to back peddle or deflect from that comment.

Bluster aside . . . you still don't seem to understand the difference between a commissioner and an acting commissioner. Maybe you and Rubio can work it out over a bottle of water.

[BigRedBuster]

However, please explain how that alleviates him from any responsibility of what happens while he is in charge?

 

Yes....I know he wasn't in charge when supposedly these things took place. That wasn't the point of my post.

You typed those sentences back to back?

 

The point was that you acted like there was absolutely nobody in the position. Obviously you didn't know that. But, I can understand why you would want to back peddle or deflect from that comment.

Bluster aside . . . you still don't seem to understand the difference between a commissioner and an acting commissioner. Maybe you and Rubio can work it out over a bottle of water.

 

 

You are so funny when you deflect by trying to manipulate what someone says. In another attempt to actually assume you are talking serious about this instead of just playing games with words:

 

http://www.irs.gov/u...teven-T.-Miller

 

Steven Miller's bio.

 

Steven T. Miller is Acting Commissioner of Internal Revenue and Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement. As Acting Commissioner, he presides over the nation’s tax system, which collects approximately $2.4 trillion in tax revenue that funds most government operations and public services. Miller manages an agency of about 90,000 employees and a budget of more than $12 billion. The agency touches every facet of American society, including individual taxpayers, the tax-exempt sector, small businesses and large corporations.

 

As Acting Commissioner, Miller will continue to emphasize the necessity of maintaining a balance between taxpayer service and tax enforcement. His goals for the IRS are improving service to make voluntary compliance easier for taxpayers while at the same time enforcing the law to make sure everyone meets their obligation to pay the taxes they owe.

 

As Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement, Miller provides direction and oversight for all major decisions affecting the four taxpayer-focused IRS Divisions: Wage and Investment, Large Business and International, Small Business/Self-Employed, and Tax Exempt and Government Entities. He also provides the executive direction and leadership for the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, which investigates income tax evasion and related financial crimes; the IRS Office of Professional Responsibility, which administers the laws and regulations governing the practice of tax professionals before the IRS; and the IRS Whistleblower Office, which receives information on tax cheating and provides appropriate rewards to whistleblowers.

 

Prior to his appointment as the Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement, Steve served as the Commissioner of the Large Business and International Division. In this position, he had oversight for federal tax administration for domestic and foreign corporations and partnerships with assets of $10 million or more that have a United States tax filing requirement. Previously, as the Commissioner of the Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, Steve oversaw the administration of tax law relating to employee plans, tax-exempt organizations and various government entities. Steve also served as the Director of Exempt Organizations and as the acting Assistant Commissioner and Special Assistant to the Assistant Commissioner, Employee Plans/Exempt Organizations. Other prior service includes several years in Chief Counsel, serving as a Congressional staff member for the Joint Committee on Taxation and work in private practice.

 

Steve graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Maryland, a Juris Doctor degree from George Washington University, and a Master of Laws degree in taxation from Georgetown University Law School.

 

Now, in a position before his current job he had the responsibility that is in red.

 

Now, I don't know exactly when he has held all these various jobs and that is why I am holding out judgment on his resignation. However, the article I posted earlier points out that as the Deputy Commissioner he knew about what happened in 2012 and flat out lied to congress about it.

 

You can sit here and play semantic games with words. But, it seems to me that even though he wasn't the man in the absolute top office of the department at the time, he knew enough about what was going on at a point when Congress was trying to find out what happened and he acted in a manor to hide it.

 

I really don't feel comfortable with someone NOW managing the department that partook in these actions.

 

We will see what comes out more as far as evidence of who knew what on up the chain when it actually was happening.

[carlfense]

You are so funny when you deflect by trying to manipulate what someone says.

Manipulation isn't necessary when you can just directly quote something like this . . .

 

However, please explain how that alleviates him from any responsibility of what happens while he is in charge?

 

Yes....I know he wasn't in charge when supposedly these things took place. That wasn't the point of my post.

[Someone]

 

 

You are so funny when you deflect by trying to manipulate what someone says.

Nobody is attempting to manipulate what I have said.

 

 

The IRS thing happened under the watch of a Republican appointee from the Bush administration who kept it secret from the Obama administration. I love facts.

[StPaulHusker]

This argument could start to get real confusing being there are posters with names of Someone AND Nobody.

[carlfense]

This argument could start to get real confusing being there are posters with names of Someone AND Nobody.

Someone said something? Nobody said that!

[Someone]

3rd base.

[walksalone]

3rd base.

 

[rawhide]

Julian Bond has not aged well course neither have I

 

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130515002-naacp-irs-target.html

 

 

I've always said it's a matter of perspective.

[knapplc]

So Mr. Bond's premise is, if I don't like them, I'll rubber-stamp their persecution? That's brilliant, Mr. Bond. You'll have a really nice country to live in with that philosophy.

[BigRedBuster]

Julian Bond has not aged well course neither have I

 

http://www.reagancoa...irs-target.html

 

 

I've always said it's a matter of perspective.

 

 

And the political gamesmanship goes on and on.

[navysker]

Honest questions

 

1) Who here believes that the tea party is for social welfare?

 

and

 

2) Who has issues with "dark money" in elections?

 

I'm just curious and nothing more. Personally I don't think the tea party is for better social welfare(which is the main reason for being tax exempt under 501© 4) due to their stance on courts, immigration, health care, debt reduction etc, etc. And also I don't think "dark money" should be used in politics. I dislike every stinking commercial, flier and e-mail I receive. I will vote for someone based off my own information that I find for laws and politicians. Again, I'm just asking.

[BigRedBuster]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-irs-20130515,0,4905721.story

 

Obama: Acting IRS commissioner has resigned over scandal

[knapplc]

That's one step in the chain of people who should resign or be fired over this. The IRS agents responsible for the "targeting" should be fired, as well as their supervisor and perhaps (depending on the structure there) the second-level supervisor.

 

The acting commissioner's resignation is largely symbolic. While probably warranted, he'll get another high-level job somewhere else and the root of the problem - the agents doing the persecuting and their supervisory staff - will remain.

[StPaulHusker]

He was set to quit anyway so not as big of deal as it should be.