jsneb83 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Until we beat MSU and then someone says they were playing poorly lately and we wouldn't have been able to beat them at their finest... Why do people feel the need to downplay a win? Because, IIRC, we still haven't beat a ranked opponent this season. And the way we did it on offense left a lot to be desired. Not all wins are created equal, and just because you win doesn't mean you stop looking for areas of improvement. Yes, this was a good win...but much in the same way that NW was a good win. There's a lot to improve on, especially if the kids are wanting to go back to Indy... Then say, "This was a good win, but I think this and this needs to be worked on," not "this was a good win, but that was only because the other team was terrible," or even "We got lucky to get a win against a terrible team." You are basically discrediting anything good that the team did in the game with those last two. Not saying that is what you say, but I think that is the point that Atbone is trying to make. Quote Link to comment
Joe_5700 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 19-0 in the Big House. Now 19-1. Make no mistake. This was a B1G win. Let's enjoy it! Exactly. We won despite all of the injuries AND the 2 turnovers. It was a great win. Every win from here and out is a credit to the coaches and these players. Quote Link to comment
EZ-E Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Until we beat MSU and then someone says they were playing poorly lately and we wouldn't have been able to beat them at their finest... Why do people feel the need to downplay a win? Because, IIRC, we still haven't beat a ranked opponent this season. And the way we did it on offense left a lot to be desired. Not all wins are created equal, and just because you win doesn't mean you stop looking for areas of improvement. Yes, this was a good win...but much in the same way that NW was a good win. There's a lot to improve on, especially if the kids are wanting to go back to Indy... Then say, "This was a good win, but I think this and this needs to be worked on," not "this was a good win, but that was only because the other team was terrible," or even "We got lucky to get a win against a terrible team." You are basically discrediting anything good that the team did in the game with those last two. Not saying that is what you say, but I think that is the point that Atbone is trying to make. When we lose we shouldn't have because the other team was terrible. When we win we should have won by more because the other team is terrible. Quote Link to comment
Coqui Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 From a fan standpoint, this was a huge win. You removed 2 of 3 things a Michigan Man will attempt to use as justification of why Michigan is better than (insert team here) 1.) Hoke has never lost a game at home (not anymore) 2.) Michigan has a better head to head record (not anymore) 3.) All time winningest program (you just moved one closer) They played 10 more years then us We have 5 National championships not 8 made up ones Your issue here is you're trying to apply logic to this. You can't do that against Michigan fans. You just have to beat what they're bragging about. For example: Michigan leads Ohio State in the head to head by 14 games. During the early part of the series, Michigan was a Div. I football team. Ohio State was a club team for,wait for it, 14 years. Do you think that really matters to them? Quote Link to comment
HuskerfaninOkieland Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What's the head to head between Michigan and Appalachian State? Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If we beat MSU next week, it will be because their offense was terrible. Its the same every week with some fans. Can never give credit to the players/coaches when they actually deserve it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If we beat MSU next week, it will be because their offense was terrible. Its the same every week with some fans. Can never give credit to the players/coaches when they actually deserve it. Quote Link to comment
skersfan Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I guess I am one of those guys your talking about. We won some games last year, that I was not impressed with. Games that we got lucky, bad call, missed give me play. I look at how we play, what we are about. I said numerous times last year we were very lucky to win this or that game. A win is a win, but those type of wins affect the players. They know when they should win, when they played well enough to win. It stays with them. When they win with just luck, when the going gets tough and it is not going in their direction, that lucky win comes up, the questions are there. Yesterday was a great win for me. We fought as an underdog, in one of the most storied stadiums in the country against the most winningest ( I know not a word) program in college football history, against one of the largest crowds in college football. They played every minute to win, no matter what they were dealt they played through it. That is the marking of a true winner, not a lucky winner. Last week we were lucky winners. This week we showed heart, a sense of growth, that will continue. A work and earn it attitude that paid off. That creates drive down the road, the belief they are for real, not lucky. This team did something no other team has been able to, nor will there be another ever do it, they ended a 19-0 home winning streak. A huge game for this young team, a great game for Bo and staff. I embrace it as a major step in the right direction. I am very proud of the accomplishment, and my guess and hope is this will be the game that makes Nebraska,, Nebraska again. 1 Quote Link to comment
Coqui Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 What's the head to head between Michigan and Appalachian State? The way they're worried about next year, it might just be 0-2 for Michigan against them Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Poor Gardner has been completely ruined as a qb. He's so uncomfortable back there it's sad. If I'm not mistaken he's a former WR turned QB. He looked horrible Saturday. Like really bad. He looked really lost back there and even I was thinking 'dude just get rid of the ball!' when he was back there running around albeit really slowly. I kept thinking to myself 'is this the best QB on their roster'? Quote Link to comment
jsneb83 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Poor Gardner has been completely ruined as a qb. He's so uncomfortable back there it's sad. If I'm not mistaken he's a former WR turned QB. He looked horrible Saturday. Like really bad. He looked really lost back there and even I was thinking 'dude just get rid of the ball!' when he was back there running around albeit really slowly. I kept thinking to myself 'is this the best QB on their roster'? He was a QB turned WR turned QB Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Poor Gardner has been completely ruined as a qb. He's so uncomfortable back there it's sad. If I'm not mistaken he's a former WR turned QB. He looked horrible Saturday. Like really bad. He looked really lost back there and even I was thinking 'dude just get rid of the ball!' when he was back there running around albeit really slowly. I kept thinking to myself 'is this the best QB on their roster'? He was a QB turned WR turned QB Good to know. That begs the question. Was he really that bad of a WR then?!!! Quote Link to comment
Count 'Bility Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Maybe if he got rid the 98 and wore a normal qb number like 12, he would be confusing himself with a defensive end and be tryin to tackle himself all the time. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Good to know. That begs the question. Was he really that bad of a WR then?!!! No. They're just in trouble because Russell Bellomy is out for the year. Quote Link to comment
alexhortdog95 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Michigan is a very inept team right now. They have been overrated in every sense of the word this year. We're talking about a team that was the pick to win the division. Here's from Scout: The schedule: It’s as good as could be reasonably asked for. There’s always going to be Ohio State to deal with from the Leaders, but there’s no Wisconsin and getting Indiana at home and a depleted Penn State isn’t bad. There’s no way all the tough games could be at home, but welcoming the Buckeyes, Notre Dame and Nebraska should be a big help. But it’s Michigan; it’s going to get every team’s best shot. Getting past Central Michigan, Akron and a road trip to Connecticut shouldn’t be a problem, and hosting Minnesota and Indiana to go along with the away date in Happy Valley should mean 7-0, or at worst 6-1 with a loss to the Irish. Going on the road three times in four weeks – at Michigan State, at Northwestern and at Iowa with the Nebraska game thrown into the mix – comes after a needed off week. Key game: Nov. 2 at Michigan State. Next year, the Ohio State game will really, really matter when the Wolverines and Buckeyes are together in the East division. This season, the Nebraska game will be big, but that’s at home and it comes after the battle with Michigan State, which should, at the very least, determine the front-runner for the Legends title. The Spartans will be stronger than they were last year, but so should the Wolverines. Quote Link to comment
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