Chatelain's column - 2003 all over again

[EZ-E]

Nah. Just trying to end the conversation with you.

 

 

Next time, try it with a "you're correct". Its not my fault you tried to make a know it all point about Taylor Martinez improving this year when he wasn't injured when in actuality that adds up to 35 minutes and 58 seconds of a sample size.

 

"It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion."

 

Where did he say he improved based on a SSS? He said its unfair to say he WOULDN'T have improved if healthy the entire year.

 

It's fine. Anyone actually reading the thread can tell I really didn't say anything outlandish from my standpoint.

 

So next time NUPolo, try it with a "I disagree with your statement. When I tried to pick apart your comment it didn't work and I wasted my time. I may as well shoved my face into an entire crate of eggs."

[Ratt Mhule]

Nah. Just trying to end the conversation with you.

 

 

Next time, try it with a "you're correct". Its not my fault you tried to make a know it all point about Taylor Martinez improving this year when he wasn't injured when in actuality that adds up to 35 minutes and 58 seconds of a sample size.

 

"It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion."

 

Where did he say he improved based on a SSS? He said its unfair to say he WOULDN'T have improved if healthy the entire year.

 

 

He didn;t say it. He doesn't have to. he said "Taylor Martinez has improved on this year when he wasn't hurt" The only game he wasn't hurt was the first game. Nebraska had the ball for 35 minutes and 58 seconds. He played the whole time. Every other game he's played in, according to everyone, he's been hurt.

 

And yes, its unfair to say he wouldn't have improved. But it's an unknowable thing, let alone a straw man argument. But he didn't say that. He tried to make a blanket statement, and I made a flip remark because that statement was stupid. Holy crap

 

What post number are you referring to?

[Saunders]

Turnovers is BS yes, but the fumble stat was legit. I looked it up several times. He led the nation 3 times(once he was tied with Klein @ K-State IIRC). So please provide your stats so I can see what you mean.

I'll let you figure it out.

[EZ-E]

Nah. Just trying to end the conversation with you.

 

 

Next time, try it with a "you're correct". Its not my fault you tried to make a know it all point about Taylor Martinez improving this year when he wasn't injured when in actuality that adds up to 35 minutes and 58 seconds of a sample size.

 

"It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion."

 

Where did he say he improved based on a SSS? He said its unfair to say he WOULDN'T have improved if healthy the entire year.

 

 

He didn;t say it. He doesn't have to. he said "Taylor Martinez has improved on this year when he wasn't hurt" The only game he wasn't hurt was the first game. Nebraska had the ball for 35 minutes and 58 seconds. He played the whole time. Every other game he's played in, according to everyone, he's been hurt.

 

And yes, its unfair to say he wouldn't have improved. But it's an unknowable thing, let alone a straw man argument. But he didn't say that. He tried to make a blanket statement, and I made a flip remark because that statement was stupid. Holy crap

 

Point to where I said that it is a forgone conclusion that he would have improved.

[beanman]

Turnovers is BS yes, but the fumble stat was legit. I looked it up several times. He led the nation 3 times(once he was tied with Klein @ K-State IIRC). So please provide your stats so I can see what you mean.

I'll let you figure it out.

Here you go Sparky.

 

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/player-stat/fumble-category

[NUpolo8]

Nah. Just trying to end the conversation with you.

 

 

Next time, try it with a "you're correct". Its not my fault you tried to make a know it all point about Taylor Martinez improving this year when he wasn't injured when in actuality that adds up to 35 minutes and 58 seconds of a sample size.

 

"It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion."

 

Where did he say he improved based on a SSS? He said its unfair to say he WOULDN'T have improved if healthy the entire year.

 

 

He didn;t say it. He doesn't have to. he said "Taylor Martinez has improved on this year when he wasn't hurt" The only game he wasn't hurt was the first game. Nebraska had the ball for 35 minutes and 58 seconds. He played the whole time. Every other game he's played in, according to everyone, he's been hurt.

 

And yes, its unfair to say he wouldn't have improved. But it's an unknowable thing, let alone a straw man argument. But he didn't say that. He tried to make a blanket statement, and I made a flip remark because that statement was stupid. Holy crap

 

Point to where I said that it is a forgone conclusion that he would have improved.

 

Post #246 of this thread.

 

 

[Saunders]

Turnovers is BS yes, but the fumble stat was legit. I looked it up several times. He led the nation 3 times(once he was tied with Klein @ K-State IIRC). So please provide your stats so I can see what you mean.

I'll let you figure it out.

Here you go Sparky.

 

http://www.teamranki...fumble-category

 

http://www.huskerboard.com/index.php?/topic/67859-chatelains-column-2003-all-over-again/page__view__findpost__p__1271904

[EZ-E]

It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion.

 

This is me saying its a forgone conclusion he would have been better.

 

Alright.

[carlfense]

The argument that Armstrong is only playing because Martinez is injured and Armstrong turned the ball over when Martinez would not have ignores the fact that Martinez led the NCAA each of the past three years in turnovers.

Can we stop trotting this out now?

 

Because it's a damned lie.

Where did he rank? Also . . . even if he didn't lead the NCAA it would be pretty tough to argue with the core of the argument: Taylor Martinez turned the ball over a lot.

I can't tell his ranking because I can't find an accurate list that lists total turnovers by player. You have to add up interceptions and fumbles separately.

 

What I was able to find (with 2 minutes of googling) is that he has never led the nation in turnovers.

 

What the original stat was supposed to be was that he led the nation in fumbles 3 years in a row, and that's not true either.

 

Of course, none of this excuses Nebraska's lack of emphasis on holding onto the football. It's just a knock people use on Taylor to prop up Tommy... even though he's on pace to beat Taylor's turnovers as a frosh.

At least on the fumbles side . . . looks like Martinez was worst in the nation in 2012 and 2010 . . . and tied for worst in the nation in 2011.

 

Looks like the general gist of the point has some serious merit, right?

[NUpolo8]

It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion.

 

This is me saying its a forgone conclusion he would have been better.

 

Alright.

 

 

 

Considering what I want to say to you would probably awaken mods I'm just going to shake my head and thank the flying spaghetti monster I don't have to go through life with your grasp on things.

[grandpasknee]

As this thread grows, so does Dick Chittlin's ego...so sad.

[EZ-E]

It's unfair to say that TMart wouldn't have shown improvement in this category this year when healthy in my opinion.

 

This is me saying its a forgone conclusion he would have been better.

 

Alright.

 

 

 

Considering what I want to say to you would probably awaken mods I'm just going to shake my head and thank the flying spaghetti monster I don't have to go through life with your grasp on things.

 

K

[It'sNotAFakeID]

How'd we get to talking about Taylor? Why do things ALWAYS GRAVITATE BACK TO TAYLOR?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[tschu]

How did this thread get to 6 pages?

[NUance]

How did this thread get to 6 pages?

Did we cover the firing of Frank Solich yet? If not, we might be able to hit ten pages.