zoogs Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 As it is currently, the post reps are more of a 'Like' system than a true reputation system. It provides a way for members to give each other some virtual thumbs-ups without being a more formal gauge of the post's value. But there are two ways you can give negative feedback (apart from disagreeing in response): -Rate the topic 1-star. -Rate the user 1-star. The first one is a pretty good way for members to collectively distinguish bad, headed-for-the-tracks threads. There are times I've thought would be pretty apt for a -1, but the list of reasons against it has been outlined above. Perhaps if we had more control over how exactly the feature works, but as I recall, the options available to us through the software are very limited. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Who was the member who was a ginger from Montana who had like a -100 rep? I think if it isnt abused to be funny, it can be a good tool to show people that they are stupid and shouldnt post anymore.... or something like that. Yeah! People who don't agree with me are stupid!!!! It's honestly frightening the amount of people who don't want discourse, different opinions or debate on this board. I can't speak for others, but as for me I'd be more likely to give a -1 to a post I consider worthless to HB, rather than responding to that post and furthering the conversation. I wouldn't give a -1 to a post simply because I disagreed with it. I suspect most people, if they simply disagreed with something, would post a response explaining their position. Rather than giving it a -1. Quote Link to comment
NUpolo8 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Who was the member who was a ginger from Montana who had like a -100 rep? I think if it isnt abused to be funny, it can be a good tool to show people that they are stupid and shouldnt post anymore.... or something like that. Yeah! People who don't agree with me are stupid!!!! It's honestly frightening the amount of people who don't want discourse, different opinions or debate on this board. I can't speak for others, but as for me I'd be more likely to give a -1 to a post I consider worthless to HB, rather than responding to that post and furthering the conversation. I wouldn't give a -1 to a post simply because I disagreed with it. I suspect most people, if they simply disagreed with something, would post a response explaining their position. Rather than giving it a -1. Yes. Less discussion. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So to recap, there are already many options available to members when they encounter a post they don't like: 1. Ignore the post and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly Do we really need to add a ninth option when it has so many drawbacks? Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So to recap, there are already several options available to posters when they encounter a post they don't like: 1. Ignore the poster and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly Do we really need to add a ninth option when it has so many drawbacks? Or you could just deal with having a negative rep, or would that hurt your feelings? Who cares if you have a +100000 or a -10000? With a name like bucky, most people just assume you are an idiot before you make a point anyways.... I kid... but i think people get too worried if they have a negative rep #... who takes that crap seriously anyways? 1 Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So to recap, there are already several options available to posters when they encounter a post they don't like: 1. Ignore the poster and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly Do we really need to add a ninth option when it has so many drawbacks? Or you could just deal with having a negative rep, or would that hurt your feelings? Who cares if you have a +100000 or a -10000? With a name like bucky, most people just assume you are an idiot before you make a point anyways.... I kid... but i think people get too worried if they have a negative rep #... who takes that crap seriously anyways? Ad friggin-hominem. What do I have to do with it? But yea, obviously if -1's were still a thing I'd be deep in the red but I care about rep because internet points translate directly into money and as a Husker Board Featured Poster™ I get a nickel for every +1 I receive. Nah but really I don't care about my rep here. It's already trash. I just think -1'ing is a bad idea. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 But you got some pretty cool sig jerseys out of the deal. Quote Link to comment
Minnesota_husker Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So to recap, there are already several options available to posters when they encounter a post they don't like: 1. Ignore the poster and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly Do we really need to add a ninth option when it has so many drawbacks? Or you could just deal with having a negative rep, or would that hurt your feelings? Who cares if you have a +100000 or a -10000? With a name like bucky, most people just assume you are an idiot before you make a point anyways.... I kid... but i think people get too worried if they have a negative rep #... who takes that crap seriously anyways? Ad friggin-hominem. What do I have to do with it? But yea, obviously if -1's were still a thing I'd be deep in the red but I care about rep because internet points translate directly into money and as a Husker Board Featured Poster™ I get a nickel for every +1 I receive. Nah but really I don't care about my rep here. It's already trash. I just think -1'ing is a bad idea. But that is my question.. if you dont care about rep... than why do you care about -1'ing. The people who care are those who somehow get a chubby over getting one of those nifty +1's. Like if i came after you, you could -1 me and then lets say not everyone wants to quote me to bash me, instead they throw a - and i see ten -1's and realize that maybe you werent the only one who thought my post sucked, but maybe were the only one who had the balls to quote me to discuss. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So to recap, there are already several options available to posters when they encounter a post they don't like: 1. Ignore the poster and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly Do we really need to add a ninth option when it has so many drawbacks? Or you could just deal with having a negative rep, or would that hurt your feelings? Who cares if you have a +100000 or a -10000? With a name like bucky, most people just assume you are an idiot before you make a point anyways.... I kid... but i think people get too worried if they have a negative rep #... who takes that crap seriously anyways? Ad friggin-hominem. What do I have to do with it? But yea, obviously if -1's were still a thing I'd be deep in the red but I care about rep because internet points translate directly into money and as a Husker Board Featured Poster™ I get a nickel for every +1 I receive. Nah but really I don't care about my rep here. It's already trash. I just think -1'ing is a bad idea. But that is my question.. if you dont care about rep... than why do you care about -1'ing. The people who care are those who somehow get a chubby over getting one of those nifty +1's. Like if i came after you, you could -1 me and then lets say not everyone wants to quote me to bash me, instead they throw a - and i see ten -1's and realize that maybe you werent the only one who thought my post sucked, but maybe were the only one who had the balls to quote me to discuss. Because of the reasons I listed in post #7. I'm opposed to it because of what it will do to the level of discussion on the board, not to my rep. As I said earlier, I'm completely cool with getting rid of rep all together. Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 But you got some pretty cool sig jerseys out of the deal. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Because of the reasons I listed in post #7. I'm opposed to it because of what it will do to the level of discussion on the board, not to my rep. As I said earlier, I'm completely cool with getting rid of rep all together. Giving a neg rep to a post would not prevent discussion. It's not like negs and post quotes are mutually exclusive. It would simply provide another avenue of feedback. Feedback with the option to quote the post. Or not. The way it is now, there is no way to provide feedback on a really stupid post without furthering the conversation. This leads to thread derailments and bickering. Is that the type of message board we want? Quote Link to comment
Excel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Giving a neg rep to a post would not prevent discussion. No but it would probably lessen discussion. Why articulate my opposing view point when I can just ping you with a -1? It's not like negs and post quotes are mutually exclusive. I would venture to argue that they are in that how many replies do we see to a post with tons of +1 saying "yea I agree"? Rarely do they match the number of +1's. The reputation system is a way for lazy people to "contribute" to the discussion and it's a low effort contribution that does absolutely nothing to advance the conversation. It would simply provide another avenue of feedback. We already have, by my count, eight ways to provide feedback. It should take a very compelling argument to add a ninth. The way it is now, there is no way to provide feedback on a really stupid post without furthering the conversation. There are plenty of ways: 1. Ignore the poster and move on 2. Go to the "My settings" section of their profile and ignore the user 3. Report the post to moderators 4. PM the user 5. Take it up in the Woodshed 6. Reply to the user 7. Rate the user poorly on their page 8. Rate the thread poorly This leads to thread derailments and bickering. Is that the type of message board we want? That's the message board we already have for a number of reasons unrelated to rep. Pull up any thread on more than its second page and there's a 50% chance it will have completely devolved into gifs. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Lets just go with Marf's drunken idea of dick measuring photos. It would probably have a more resounding effect than a -1. Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Giving a neg rep to a post would not prevent discussion. No but it would probably lessen discussion. Why articulate my opposing view point when I can just ping you with a -1? It's not like negs and post quotes are mutually exclusive. I would venture to argue that they are in that how many replies do we see to a post with tons of +1 saying "yea I agree"? Rarely do they match the number of +1's. The reputation system is a way for lazy people to "contribute" to the discussion and it's a low effort contribution that does absolutely nothing to advance the conversation. It would simply provide another avenue of feedback. We already have, by my count, eight ways to provide feedback. It should take a very compelling argument to add a ninth. This leads to thread derailments and bickering. Is that the type of message board we want? That's the message board we already have for a number of reasons unrelated to rep. Pull up any thread on more than its second page and there's a 50% chance it will have completely devolved into gifs. I guess we'll just have to stick with gifs for feedback then. 1 Quote Link to comment
sd'sker Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 the beauty of not having a -1 system is that i get most of my +1's from responding to dumb posts with more than just a -1. plus, i would be in the negative within a week. i think i might be polarizing, you guys. Quote Link to comment
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