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Coach Riley wants to hire a Walk-on Coordinator. I personally think this is great.

 

I think the key points this person should have would be:

 

1) Must have roots in Nebraska.

This person needs to know what it’s like to grow up with the dream of playing in Memorial stadium.

 

2) Must have recruiting experience.

Has to be able to convince the kids to give up a scholarship offer from other schools and walk on in Lincoln.

 

3) Must already have a good relationship with the Nebraska high school coaches (especially in Omaha and Lincoln).

If the coaches are on board they can help convince the kids that Nebraska is the best place to be.

 

I think we can lock down this state and make it hard for any outside schools to recruit here.

 

What do you think about the key points?

 

Ultimately I want to know who you think Coach Riley should look at.

 

--- Sorry if there is already a discussion on this topic. I searched for it and could not find one.

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Coach Riley wants to hire a Walk-on Coordinator. I personally think this is great.

 

I think the key points this person should have would be:

 

1) Must have roots in Nebraska.

This person needs to know what it’s like to grow up with the dream of playing in Memorial stadium.

 

2) Must have recruiting experience.

Has to be able to convince the kids to give up a scholarship offer from other schools and walk on in Lincoln.

 

3) Must already have a good relationship with the Nebraska high school coaches (especially in Omaha and Lincoln).

If the coaches are on board they can help convince the kids that Nebraska is the best place to be.

 

I think we can lock down this state and make it hard for any outside schools to recruit here.

 

What do you think about the key points?

 

Ultimately I want to know who you think Coach Riley should look at.

 

--- Sorry if there is already a discussion on this topic. I searched for it and could not find one.

 

I'm not sure who would fit the mold here but if a kid getting recruited and offered a scholarship out of state and only being offered a walk-on spot at NU then this guy better be able to sell ice to an eskimo.

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While these are nice points, I think someone could be successful without #1 and #3. Try to keep an open mind. I'm sure Riley will find someone he thinks has what it takes to do well there.

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As for #3, I agree other than the (especially Lincoln and Omaha). All the coaches already are going to be well aware of what is in those areas. Who ever it is, needs to have those relationships but he also needs to realize that there are people west of Lincoln too. Some of our best walkon/scholarship players from the state come from the western part of the state. I fully understand someone like Riley who has probably never set foot in this part of the country doesn't know or understand what is out here. But, put the right person in charge of walk-ons and they can also recruit the kid who every once in a while deserves the scholarship from this area.

 

Something that I firmly believe is that this guy needs to understand the value actually in 6 and 8 man football as far as finding walk-ons. Is there always players there to get? No, but just because a kid played 8 man football, doesn't mean that can't translate to Nebraska as a walk-on.

 

Something else I really don't understand. Since I graduated in the mid 80s, my small town has produced (off the top of my head) 3 scholarship players and at least three walk-ons. Now, two of the scholarship players were starters on NC teams. The other one is still playing in the NFL. One of the walk-ons was contributing until a back injury basically ended his career. The other two walk-ons are new and we will see if they do contribute.

All that is from my small town. When I look around at the schools we compete with, in our immediate area, I can't even think of anyone from those schools that have gone there since the 80s. Why would one small town produce these kids and the rest not? I personally believe it has to do with the coaches have seen what can come out of here and the pay attention. It could also be that the ex players from here inform the coaches of what we have so they are more aware.

 

I don't know. But, I hope the pipeline keeps going.

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I think Matt Vrzal would be great, he is active in the program, well spoken, likeable and familiar with the landscape of Nebraska and Husker football. I'm not sure Crouch has the personality to pull it off or not. Maybe even Foreman or Benning?

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Doc Sadler

That's actually a pretty good idea.

 

I'm pretty sure being a head coach of a Div 1 men's basketball team probably pays better and is more in line with what he really wants to do than to be coordinator of walk-ons of a sport he has never coached or scouted.

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Doc Sadler

That's actually a pretty good idea.

I'm pretty sure being a head coach of a Div 1 men's basketball team probably pays better and is more in line with what he really wants to do than to be coordinator of walk-ons of a sport he has never coached or scouted.

Barry Collier?

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Doc Sadler

That's actually a pretty good idea.

I'm pretty sure being a head coach of a Div 1 men's basketball team probably pays better and is more in line with what he really wants to do than to be coordinator of walk-ons of a sport he has never coached or scouted.

Barry Collier?

 

Barry Collier switched to recruiting walk-ons for a football team?

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Doc Sadler

That's actually a pretty good idea.

I'm pretty sure being a head coach of a Div 1 men's basketball team probably pays better and is more in line with what he really wants to do than to be coordinator of walk-ons of a sport he has never coached or scouted.
Barry Collier?

Barry Collier switched to recruiting walk-ons for a football team?

He owes us

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Matt Davidson, Jason Peter, Tommie Frazier - all from a bygone era but they could inspire wt some stories

I would go with Lawrence Phillips when he gets out. If other coaches come to talk to our players he could just run them down with his car. Wait has anyone said Scott Frost yet?

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Matt Davidson, Jason Peter, Tommie Frazier - all from a bygone era but they could inspire wt some stories

I would go with Lawrence Phillips when he gets out. If other coaches come to talk to our players he could just run them down with his car. Wait has anyone said Scott Frost yet?

 

Scott Frost would be great

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Matt Davidson, Jason Peter, Tommie Frazier - all from a bygone era but they could inspire wt some stories

I would go with Lawrence Phillips when he gets out. If other coaches come to talk to our players he could just run them down with his car. Wait has anyone said Scott Frost yet?

 

Scott Frost would be great

 

 

I'm pretty sure he's free.

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I say what about someone like Scott Shanle? Walked on, made the NFL, stuck around in the NFL for awhile. Adam Treu might be another option. They lived it and had success. I'd also like Joel Mackovica (sic?) but I say get someone who did it, had success and can speak to it.

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Almost all of these recommendations are guys who don't have any High School coaching experience and/or don't have any relationships with existing High School coaches in Nebraska. They wouldn't be a good fit for the job. Just because someone was a great former player, doesn't mean he's a fit for this job. Just because you played, doesn't mean you can coach or manage a scouting, PR and recruiting operation. Playing is good, but they better have the other skills needed. For those of us that have played and been coached by former "greats"- can attest to that. It doesn't matter what you know as a coach, it matters what you can teach- same goes for managing and recruiting.

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Almost all of these recommendations are guys who don't have any High School coaching experience and/or don't have any relationships with existing High School coaches in Nebraska. They wouldn't be a good fit for the job. Just because someone was a great former player, doesn't mean he's a fit for this job. Just because you played, doesn't mean you can coach or manage a scouting, PR and recruiting operation. Playing is good, but they better have the other skills needed. For those of us that have played and been coached by former "greats"- can attest to that. It doesn't matter what you know as a coach, it matters what you can teach- same goes for managing and recruiting.

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Jimmy Williams would be a great choice if going for an established hire from the college ranks.

 

Matt Turman would be an interesting if not inspired option imo. He's done a pretty good job at Skutt.

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Jimmy Williams would be a great choice if going for an established hire from the college ranks.

 

Matt Turman would be an interesting if not inspired option imo. He's done a pretty good job at Skutt.

So, he has recruiting experience.

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I think a former good player that was a walk on can do the job. I am not sure where the coaching aspect needs to come into play. I would assume that if they talked an OL into walking on, Cavanaugh would be coaching him.

 

And what better recruiting tool would this person have than to show the kids that he walked the walk?

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Lots of good candidates being suggested in this thread. I like Vrzal, myself. Another question with walk-on tryouts approaching, do we get our Walk-on Coordinator before then?

 

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Almost all of these recommendations are guys who don't have any High School coaching experience and/or don't have any relationships with existing High School coaches in Nebraska. They wouldn't be a good fit for the job. Just because someone was a great former player, doesn't mean he's a fit for this job. Just because you played, doesn't mean you can coach or manage a scouting, PR and recruiting operation. Playing is good, but they better have the other skills needed. For those of us that have played and been coached by former "greats"- can attest to that. It doesn't matter what you know as a coach, it matters what you can teach- same goes for managing and recruiting.

I bet any coach would listen to someone that played at Nebraska and made a name for himself doing it. They don't necessarily have to have any coaching experience in Nebraska or be a current coach or have any experience/connections with Nebraska coaches. You build that trust/connection over time with communication and just letting them know you are there.

 

The position is not a coaching position either so the person doesn't need to have any coaching experience.

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Almost all of these recommendations are guys who don't have any High School coaching experience and/or don't have any relationships with existing High School coaches in Nebraska. They wouldn't be a good fit for the job. Just because someone was a great former player, doesn't mean he's a fit for this job. Just because you played, doesn't mean you can coach or manage a scouting, PR and recruiting operation. Playing is good, but they better have the other skills needed. For those of us that have played and been coached by former "greats"- can attest to that. It doesn't matter what you know as a coach, it matters what you can teach- same goes for managing and recruiting.

I bet any coach would listen to someone that played at Nebraska and made a name for himself doing it. They don't necessarily have to have any coaching experience in Nebraska or be a current coach or have any experience/connections with Nebraska coaches. You build that trust/connection over time with communication and just letting them know you are there.

 

The position is not a coaching position either so the person doesn't need to have any coaching experience.

 

Getting someone to "Listen" to you and being able to execute the plan are two entirely different things. Coaches understand and respect coaches- people who have been in their shoes. What is that High SChool coach trying to accomplish in the recruiting process and how does that fit in to how I'm approaching the relationship or even a specific meeting? Coaches love dealing with guys who totally understand their needs and perspective. As coaches we have lots of people knocking on our doors and have met lots of coaches and ex players- a former NU player really isn't that big a deal. Most former coaches played, they don't get all wobbly kneed when a former NU player walks through the door. Now if that guy is a former player AND has all the above experience and can execute a well conceived plan, that's another story.

This has a lot to do with relationships- which includes the ability to relate to, have the respect of and work with a network of High School coaches. Then be able to develop, plan, work and successfully execute a scouting and recruiting operation. it requires problem solving, salesmanship and great organization and diplomatic skills. Just because someone was big and fast and or played football here- doesn't mean he has the skills to successfully do that job.

It will also require someone who will work their tail off, consistency etc and be an effective communicator with all types of demographics, from North Omaha to Chadron. That doesn't fit the bill of every half famous ex player who may be in the need of a job. Understand the audience, its building that network of coaches, then the recruits/ parents and here in Nebraska even the public at large. With our storied walk on program history and the level of "ownership" many feel, the public wants to know the walkon program is alive, well and thriving.

 

That person isn't an Ahman Green or Tommie Frazier

This isn't a job you let someone "try on" to see if he magically has all the skills ready to do it- doesn't have the relationships. Its not a 350k a year job any big time guy will take- but it isn't one of those 40-60k a year scout jobs either.

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Mike Riley may have all of his full-time assistant coaches in place, but one critical hire remains.

The Husker head coach expects he'll soon fill a position that specializes at in-state and walk-on recruiting. As Riley describes it, though, the job has more layers than just that.
"I think we need a guy that is a good Nebraska high school coaches' liaison -- when they want to come to practice, when we're going to put on a clinic. Frankly, just developing a relationship for us in that area," Riley said during an interview with Journal Star reporters Friday.
In short, the person must know the prep football scene in the state of Nebraska inside and out.
"He can't be a guy that goes out recruiting, but he can be the organizer, he can be the guy that has the greatest handle on all the prospects in Nebraska," Riley said.
Actually, that's Nebraska and beyond.
"Sometimes when I'm talking about Nebraska, I might be talking about Nebraska, I might also be talking about Sioux Falls, South Dakota too, right? And Council Bluffs. Maybe even Kansas City.

 

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Damon Benning.

 

I was going to mention him. I have a feeling he will be part of the program sometime soon. On his radio show his cohost, Sharp, keeps hinting at it and Damon doesnt ever say anything. Think he'd be good for the program. I think he would eventually like to be a coach of some sort though.
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Damon Benning.

 

I was going to mention him. I have a feeling he will be part of the program sometime soon. On his radio show his cohost, Sharp, keeps hinting at it and Damon doesnt ever say anything. Think he'd be good for the program. I think he would eventually like to be a coach of some sort though.
I think Sharpe is just trolling him, but who knows. He would seem to fit all of Riley's criteria to a tee.

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