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[jmfb]

 

 

Still hearing only crickets regarding the top 10, and 11-15 coaches, and which ones would have accepted an NU offer.

Ive been advised not to "discuss" football with those that have absolutely no clue what they are talking about

So I wouldn't be "answering" you, sorry about that

That whole topic has been done to death- we settled for someone with a losing record in conference and 6 of 14 losing seasons instead

 

It's funny you complain about MR and then act all snobbish like you know everything and everyone here is beneath you. Yet if you compared your knowledge to coaches like MR you're just an average joe like most every other poster here.

 

Im not comparing my knowledge to MR- but to the poster

As to average Joe- that tells me you don't know what you don't know. The thousands of hours of research, effort, practice, clinics, chalk sessions, film study. phone calls/video chat etc that those successful in the coaching profession invest to become proficient at their jobs. That's why so many coaches just shake their heads and smile when they hear stuff like that- or just ignore it altogether with a knowing laugh.

[Redux]

 

Dude, you might be the smartest guy in the planet about football. But, your total lack of being able to communicate with people without insulting them is completely masking any attempt you are making to actually discuss football.

 

You come to a fan board and you are flabbergasted that people take offense to you constantly posting over and over and over again negative posts about how horrible our coaching staff is and how we are going to suck this year because you know so much about football.

What the hell do you expect a reaction to be with that on a Husker football board. Now, before you claim all of us are nothing more than a bunch of ignorant koolaid drinkers, all of us have complained about something or been concerned about something from time to time. None of us are constant sunshine on here and we will gladly discuss concerns as has been greatly discussed already on here people's concerns about our DC. But, ultimately, hey....might as well wait and see what he can do with better talent.

 

Again, I ask (and has never been answered) why do you choose to be nothing but negative? Is that actually fun? Following a sports team is supposed to be fun. If it's not being fun following a team because you are constantly upset and negative....why continue following it to the extent you hang out on a message board preaching to every other Husker fan you can find about how bad things are in Lincoln? The only answer I have is that you find it fun being that negative and I would like to figure out why.

 

Real reading comp issues there buster

Nowhere did I say NU was going to suck

Ive stated many times some of the things I like about Riley- the PR, Recruiting, mending fences with fans. I just don't think he is a proven consistent college coach for a top 15 program and Im hoping Im wrong about it.

 

With average coaching this team has won 9 games a year, every year. I think we have an average group of coaches taking over- extremely nice, sincere, hard working, but at the end of the day average. Unlike many of the koolaide drinkers- I don't expect 11 wins like some are talking about. It will most likely be an 8-9 win season, just like the impartial LV oddsmakers are saying- I think they are saying 8.

 

Forget the "QB" whispering, didn't work for Stanton, you aren't going to see huge improvements from TA either, it is what it is, he's getting coached up by Mr force the ball into triple coverage turnover man Brett Farve for crying out loud. There is too much talent on the team for them to tank to 5-6 wins, but I don't see any evidence from the track record of this coaching staff that says they can make it an 11 win team either.

 

For all those thinking that all we needed was a little boost to get from 9 to 11 wins and all of our problems are now going to melt away with MR at the helm are one of the reasons so many people think NU fans are so delusional. I don't like seeing our real fans- our real brand made into something it shouldn't be. a joke, a punchline by all this ridiculous talk. Travel a bit, talk to some people that really know football and ask them what they think of NU, its football program and its fanbase. Lots of great ones in my section, friends, coaches I work with, the season ticket holders, not so much on a "fan" message board. JMO

 

Interestingly enough pretty much the same stuff most years at this time lately- yeah 11 wins, XYZ can mature with just a little bit of help, this teams chemistry is really coming together, this team is working hard-bigger-faster- QB will be better, stronger blah blah - same stuff every year from the same people. Can one be optimistic? Sure, but many are optimistic to the point of insanity- ridiculousness. Yeah we win em all every year, Number 1, we can beat Ohio State, Bama, Oregon, bring em on. Being unrealistic, acting like the 9 year old kid is great for 9 year old kids. For the stakeholders of the program the real fans and supporter$ of NU, not so much. That kind of unwarranted optimism was what silenced the Bo critics and made that 7 year vetting process something it didn't need to be and longer and more painful than it needed to be.

I disagree

[BigRedBuster]

Real reading comp issues there buster

 

 

Nowhere did I say NU was going to suck

Ive stated many times some of the things I like about Riley- the PR, Recruiting, mending fences with fans. I just don't think he is a proven consistent college coach for a top 15 program and Im hoping Im wrong about it.

 

 

I'm pretty good at reading comprehension...thank you.

 

You basically say in the second sentence of your post that you don't think NU is going to suck. Your third sentence then goes right into claiming that because of this sucky coach we have, there's no way we are going to be a top 15 program.

 

You then go on with most of the rest of your post explaining why you think that.

 

Ummmm....there's a hell fo a lot of Husker fans that think if we aren't a top 15 program then that sucks.

 

So, by you claiming we don't have what it takes to be a top 15 program, then you are by default, claiming we are going to suck.

 

Again, all you are is a bunch of negativity and then you claim that the "real fans and supporters of NU" know more than any of us do.

 

Ummmm......you have no clue how much I or anyone on this board has supported NU sports. That's just one of the ignorant insults you constantly throw out there that turns people off.

[BigRedBuster]

 

 

 

Still hearing only crickets regarding the top 10, and 11-15 coaches, and which ones would have accepted an NU offer.

Ive been advised not to "discuss" football with those that have absolutely no clue what they are talking about

So I wouldn't be "answering" you, sorry about that

That whole topic has been done to death- we settled for someone with a losing record in conference and 6 of 14 losing seasons instead

 

It's funny you complain about MR and then act all snobbish like you know everything and everyone here is beneath you. Yet if you compared your knowledge to coaches like MR you're just an average joe like most every other poster here.

 

Im not comparing my knowledge to MR- but to the poster

As to average Joe- that tells me you don't know what you don't know. The thousands of hours of research, effort, practice, clinics, chalk sessions, film study. phone calls/video chat etc that those successful in the coaching profession invest to become proficient at their jobs. That's why so many coaches just shake their heads and smile when they hear stuff like that- or just ignore it altogether with a knowing laugh.

 

Bla bla bla bla bla......The rest of us might as well stop typing because we are in the presence of a master at football.

[jmfb]

Buster

 

Sorry- but Im going to have to bow out of this one

Really hard to have a conversation with someone who is always trying to put words in your mouth

I wish NU was a 16-20th ranked program- but I guess since by your definition since they are outside the top 15, we suck? 9 wins isn't a team that "sucks" IMO, It is however something that is less than potential for a place like Nebraska playing in the Big 10 in 2015.

 

As to your knowledge or support of the NU program- all I can go by is by what you've posted. Sorry, but by your posts I just don't think you know that much about NU football or the game, JMO.

 

I find it interesting that some big "fans" make a big deal about the fact that they are going to a game. If you are a big fan, isn't that a given every home game, going to the game- it's expected.

 

BTW Im married with children, so the stalking/obcession thing isn't going to get you anywhere. sorry cant roll like that.

8500 posts in 3 years- you've got a lot to say

[BigRedBuster]

OK...I don't know anything about football and your communication and people skills suck.

 

I'll blow out of this one too.....deal

[cg_8]

(sorry, I had to)

[cg_8]

Oh, and I'm not a hig seafood fan so Red Lobster isn'texacrly in my wheelhouse.

HA! Truth be told I'm allergic to seafood. I just don't understand the correlation between "Red Lobster" and "Moronic Idiot". My brother-in-law loves their shrimp. He is also a football coach... I am SO confused!

[jmfb]

 

Oh, and I'm not a hig seafood fan so Red Lobster isn'texacrly in my wheelhouse.

HA! Truth be told I'm allergic to seafood. I just don't understand the correlation between "Red Lobster" and "Moronic Idiot". My brother-in-law loves their shrimp. He is also a football coach... I am SO confused!

 

Maybe if you put those 2 terms together and google it, you might be able to figure it out

Ate there for the last time back in about 1988 was on the pot most of the night.

Last time at Long John Silvers 1984

 

If you like it- more power to you, Great cheese biscuits though if you can tolerate the rest of the experience

[Sargon]

 

Oh, and I'm not a hig seafood fan so Red Lobster isn'texacrly in my wheelhouse.

HA! Truth be told I'm allergic to seafood. I just don't understand the correlation between "Red Lobster" and "Moronic Idiot". My brother-in-law loves their shrimp. He is also a football coach... I am SO confused!

 

 

I'll help you with that confusion. Some football coaches are moronic idiots

[NUinID]

 

 

I think Riley kinda reopens the door for a big time coach in that top 20 or higher area once his era ends. Thats a good thing.

Yes, I think so. Agree or disagree about Riley's abilities, his stature in the coaching realm is pretty high. He's very well respected. And we can finally move past the snide insinuations made by the last staff that it's hell in Nebraska and who'd want to come here and take it, anyway.Reversing that tone was the single most important thing Nebraska had to do for its football program. Hopefully, we got a capable coach, too.Is the Hill injury necessarily that serious? I'm reading "leg fracture, ligament strain (not a serious tear)". Which sounds bad. But players recover from all sorts of things. I think we had Matt Herian here with a leg fracture, though, and he never returned to form.

I cant remember if I read it here or somewhere else (the thread got derailed so i forget) but it sounds like they compare Hill to Keaton at Utah State. Great season, hampered by an injury, came back and was decent but not like he was. Kinda thinking along the lines of Martinez here. He could have a big game early and then trail off as the season stretches on. Either way I hope for BYU they have a capable backup.

 

I said it, living in Idaho with a large Mormon population we get a lot of BYU talk. Hill is from Pocatello, the local sports talk show was discussing Hill's injury and comparing the chatter about it to Chuckie Keaton's from the year before at Utah St. USU was saying all the right things and so is BYU and HIll this year. Keaton was not even close to 100% at the opener and actually reinjured the knee about 3 games into the season.

 

Not saying Hill won't be OK, but I actually saw the injury live on TV that night. If Matt Herian's break was a 10 this break was about an 8. It took Herian the rest of that season and the next before he was back playing and we all know he was only a shadow of his former self. Hill may be back 100% after about 8 months, but I don't know. His spring work basically consisted of jogging and throwing passes.

 

I am sure that MR and Banker will prepare as if he is 100%, but if he is better than about 75% I will be real surprised.

[Redux]

Whats Hill's accuracy like as a passer and what kind of stats should we expect him to put up?

[NUinID]

Whats Hill's accuracy like as a passer and what kind of stats should we expect him to put up?

 

Average, to below, he has had good games throwing the ball, but think Taylor Martinez. Running is his game.

[cg_8]

Whats Hill's accuracy like as a passer and what kind of stats should we expect him to put up?

 

Here are his stats from the 4 complete games he played in last year:

2014 GAME LOG PASSING

OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT

@Connecticut W 35-10 28 36 308 77.8 35 3 0 177.1

@Texas W 41-7 18 28 181 64.3 27 0 1 111.4

Houston W 33-25 21 34 200 61.8 38 1 2 109.1

Virginia W 41-33 13 23 187 56.5 56 2 0 153.5

 

 

For comparison, here's Tommy's in the first 4 games:

2014 GAME LOG PASSING

OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT

Florida Atlantic W 55-7 15 29 271 51.7 63 2 0 153.0

McNeese State W 31-24 16 31 242 51.6 58 2 1 132.0

@Fresno State W 55-19 12 21 260 57.1 70 3 0 208.3

Miami (FL) W 41-31 9 13 113 69.2 40 2 1 177.6

[cg_8]

The best way to see how well he throws is by watching him. I just watched highlights from the Texas game.

 

It looks like his short passes and medium passes are pretty accurate, they seem to be his strength and they call the game that way. It looks like he throws well on the run, although he takes some risks there. His long passes are almost non-existent, and the one long pass shown was into double coverage, and ended up being a great catch by the WR. Of course, it looks like their game plans for him don't include long passes. It shows with his stats above too, his longest for those 4 games are 35, 27, 38, and 56. The BYU offense seemed to do just fine without them those 4 games.

 

For this game, he was 18/28 181 yards passing 0 TD's 1 INT. Rushed 24 times for 99 yards and 3 TD's.

 

His running ability is scary. He's not crazy fast, but he is fast, and his ability to get out of the pocket is scary.

 

Admittedly, I haven't had a chance to watch BYU much. Keep in mind that this is also a highlight video. Something that annoys me about them is that we don't get to see incompletions, INT's, and other negative things. Maybe I'll find some time to watch the full game, but man does Texas look terrible in that video. Their offense was junk.