jmfb Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Certain advantages I get it- I like Rich Rod though Gal I dated after I returned home from college went to ASU- runner up Miss Nebraska. From a couple of her school pics- I get it a bit She said she wasn't anything special on the ASU campus, I wouldn't know when we toured it, school wasn't in session I graduated from a 50,000 student Uni- yes there is a lot to be impressed with- certain kids More power to him- wish him well Loved the hiking, weather and Scottsdale- great spot A real head turner for many- no doubt Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start? Quote Link to comment
Savage Husker Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Because be was a crappy coach that rode the coat tails of predecessors? 3 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure built for him. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend. Besides, why would you be interest in any insight into why Erickson had some rough seasons. You've been given a few hundred posts worth of insight as to why Mike Riley had some rough years at Oregon St. That doesn't seem to interest you. 1 Quote Link to comment
Savage Husker Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure already built for him.I've met him before when my high school camped at Oregon St, he was an alright guy, I remember him talking about coaching The Rock - liked the nose candy a little too much in college. Anyway, his stops have been short and he owes a lot to those who built a program before him, nothing against the guy, but don't think he could build or sustain a program. Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend. I would have to agree with you about OSU For coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about Great run Did better at OSU than at Arizona State Had some rough patches after OSU- Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend. I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about Great run Did better at OSU than at Arizona State Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common Not impossible Mike Riley won there pretty consistently. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sometimes guys only stay at a job for sure about a time because they can go get a bigger contract and start all over with guaranteed money somewhere new. Not necessarily a bad thing. Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Erickson is a solid coach imo, but he's more of a quick turnaround/success artist rather than a program builder. Did well at places that had the infrastructure built for him. Very nice run at Idaho 4 year turnaround, consistent success Quick 2 year turnaround at Washington State Played for 4 National Championships at Miami- won 2 Set records at Oregon State 31-17 One year jump back to Idaho got them from 2 to 4 wins Then after a quick start at ASU- 10-3 kind of fizzled out Looked like ASU would have worked out well for him NFL- mixed success, not that it matters Don't know anything about the guy Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nation And right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about Great run Did better at OSU than at Arizona State Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common Not impossible Mike Riley won there pretty consistently. Well Mike RIley having 6 losing seasons out of 14 and having a losing record in conference wouldn't be winning consistently by most peoples definitions Not mine either Quote Link to comment
jmfb Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sometimes guys only stay at a job for sure about a time because they can go get a bigger contract and start all over with guaranteed money somewhere new. Not necessarily a bad thing. Not at all, it's a business Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nationAnd right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about Great run Did better at OSU than at Arizona State Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common Not impossible Mike Riley won there pretty consistently. Well Mike RIley having 6 losing seasons out of 14 and having a losing record in conference wouldn't be winning consistently by most peoples definitionsNot mine either instead of continuing to derail the Bubak thread......... Oregon State Beavers (Pacific-10/Pacific-12 Conference) (2003–2014) 2003 Oregon State 8–5 4–4 2004 Oregon State 7–5 5–3 2006 Oregon State 10–4 6–3 2007 Oregon State 9–4 6–3 2008 Oregon State 9–4 7–2 2009 Oregon State 8–5 6–3 2012 Oregon State 9–4 6–3 2013 Oregon State 7–6 4–5 Hmmm.......maybe you better redefine your definition of winning consistently. 1 Quote Link to comment
alwayshusking Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 When you consider Oregon State won 52 games total in the 25 years leading up to the Riley hire, he definitely won consistently there. BTW that has to be up there for worst run in p5 school history. Averaging 2 wins a year for a quarter century is incredible futility. 2 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, no problem at all. The hatred for that school down in Tucson burns deeply within me. ASU definitely has a lot going for it right now. It is a beautiful campus and has a lot to offer that an incoming freshman could be swayed by. And the team is certainly doing well; Todd Graham is absolutely loved by his players and I can imagine he puts together a good story for recruits. The biggest adjustment will be attending a school with 70,000 plus students; that can be pretty daunting for an 18 year old kid. I know it was for me. Still a bummer to lose a local Nebraska kid, but I wish him well. Any insight on why Dennis Erickson failed at ASU after such a strong start?Dennis Erickson never failed. Must be someone else's fault. I mean....just look at his record at Oregon St. The guy is a legend.I would have to agree with you about OSUFor coaches coaching 4 years or more he holds the record for highest winning % and of course highest ranking in OSU history- the team that went 11-1 and finished 4th in nationAnd right in the middle of the Mike Riley tenure at a place a lot of people think is impossible to win at consistently, which they were wrong about Great run Did better at OSU than at Arizona State Had some rough patches after OSU- not a HOF coach Some guys fade over time- it happens. pretty common Not impossible Mike Riley won there pretty consistently. Well Mike RIley having 6 losing seasons out of 14 and having a losing record in conference wouldn't be winning consistently by most peoples definitionsNot mine either instead of continuing to derail the Bubak thread......... Oregon State Beavers (Pacific-10/Pacific-12 Conference) (2003–2014) 2003 Oregon State 8–5 4–4 2004 Oregon State 7–5 5–3 2006 Oregon State 10–4 6–3 2007 Oregon State 9–4 6–3 2008 Oregon State 9–4 7–2 2009 Oregon State 8–5 6–3 2012 Oregon State 9–4 6–3 2013 Oregon State 7–6 4–5 Hmmm.......maybe you better redefine your definition of winning consistently. So apparently these are all 8 of Riley's winning seasons.......if he had 6 of 14 losing seasons. Including one with 9 losses. Quote Link to comment
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