At what point do we stop bringing up Bo to defend Riley?

[teachercd]

Wait...who the hell dates the same girl for 7 years?

 

You need to not bone to own...you bone and bounce. 7 years? 7? Dating?

[teachercd]

You didn't get the memo? One game. One lost game is the cutoff for bringing Pelini into the conversation of how or why this team performs the way they do. We are to ignore the facts that Riley has had only part of one off season to attempt to install totally new systems with players recruited for other types of offense and defense. A few measly months to deal with the leftover baggage of the bunker mentality that placed the players at odds with anyone outside Bo's circle of trust. One game, that is all some gave it. Some went to 3 games (a 2nd loss) but they were ignoring the memo. The real trendsetters didn't even give it one game. They started with their pathetic little hissy fits the day MR was announced as coach and continue to this very day. What do you think is a reasonable amount of time where MR and staff have more influence on what happens than the guys who were here for the previous 7 years? How long?

 

BTW, Pelini is not brought up as an excuse for everything. But, when we're talking about existing talent level, it is valid. When we're talking about a propensity for playing incomplete games, like coming out flat for the first quarter of the Miami game, his name might get mentioned because that trait was a hallmark Bo's teams recently. And then we can go into all of the unavoidable comparisons; Bo's teams were good against the pass while the new system looks to stop the run first. Both have been horrendous against their specific kryptonite. Seems logical they would get compared and contrasted. The demeanor of the men is night and day. Really, people can't fathom why their differences get mentioned in about everything? Really? One was a raving, foul mouthed, lunatic who could burn a reporters soul with his eyes, who would lose his composure and transfer that lack of control to the team to the point it would affect how they played. The other guy, the polar opposite. Nice guy, too nice really, gives authentic answers in pressers, is widely liked be everyone (except for a handful of a$$hat Nebraska fans), enjoys and likes the game and seemingly everything about it. I can't even come up with an analogy of the extreme ends of the spectrum our coaching situation just underwent. Yet there are people who don't understand why it is inevitable that the past coach is still being brought into discussions after only 3 games in the new regime? WTF, we're still hashing out sh#t from Solich and Callahan but 3 frikken games for MR and some apparently have had their fill of it and think enough is enough already? I don't get it.

I thought someone looked and last year Bo's teams scored on their first drive like 9 times? I could be wrong, but that doesnt seem flat.

[JJ Husker]

Teach- the point was not playing a complete game not specifically starting slow. Bo's teams often started fast and then faded. This past Saturday they started like sh!t and finished strong. Pretty much everything is the exact opposite of how it has been, good or bad.

[GOAT]

He's going to get 3 years minimum. Last thing Eichorst wants to do is admit he made the wrong hire.

[teachercd]

Teach- the point was not playing a complete game not specifically starting slow. Bo's teams often started fast and then faded. This past Saturday they started like sh!t and finished strong. Pretty much everything is the exact opposite of how it has been, good or bad.

Ahhh...got it!

[NebraskaShellback]

[RADAR]

When Alex Lewis states that he is done playing for the state of Nebraska! There is a lot of 408 left in this team.

 

That right there is all you need to know.

[Guy Chamberlin]

Sounds like a win - win for Riley. He loses, it's Bo's fault. He wins, he's a great coach. At least for the first... 3... 4 years? Does this apply to Banker and the other coaches as well?

 

You keep saying you're willing to give Riley a few years before judging him.

 

Then you don't.

[ScottyIce]

 

 

Pelini provides the context for every conversation about Riley. The two will always be tied at the hip. It's not an excuse, it's a circumstance.

I think my point is that it doesn't need to be EVERY conversation. Can't we discuss Riley's gameplan or Banker's D without it turning it into a Bo vs. Riley conversation? Riley should be able to be evaluated by fans without having the previous guy used as context.

No, we can't. Now stop starting more threads to discuss Bo vs mike .

[GBRedneck]

 

 

 

Look, I know we are only 3 games into the Mike Riley tenure, and that Riley is playing with a roster that was put together nearly 100% by Bo and the previous staff. But, at what point do we stop bringing up the negatives of Bo and his staff, just in the effort to defend Mike Riley and his staff?

 

I fully supported the firing of Bo. Although I didn't care as much about his sideline demeanor as most fans, Bo's win-loss record and performance in big games wasn't getting it done.

 

When Mike Riley was hired, I fully knew he who he was, and was aware of his performance at Oregon State. He had some good and bad years at OSU, in a very difficult situation. But, I could understand a lot of concerns with him from fans.

 

I came into this season with moderate expectations. I was very concerned about the overall talent and depth on the team. But, I thought that Riley and his staff could get the team to improve in the on-field performance. The first 3 games have produced extremely mixed results. Yes, the BYU game was lost on a fluke Hail Mary, but NU was also almost blown out in the first half and didn't finish the game in the 4th. The Miami game was also very alarming. I think Miami has more speed and talent than NU, but that doesn't excuse the poor start, lack of execution, and overall lifelessness shown for most of the game. A 1-2 record is still a 1-2 record. Yes, BYU and Miami are good teams, but it's not like NU was starting out with 2 teams ranked in the top ten.

 

I state the above because it seems like whenever someone brings up negative items regarding the Riley and the new staff, it seems like someone has to follow-up with a negative point or comparison to Bo. Yes, I guess it's good to see a calm demeanor on the sidelines, but it doesn't do much good if the coach doesn't win. Yes, it's a positive is a good representative of the University, handles the media well, and is universally well-liked. But, frankly, those are minor aspects of a coach for me, and winning is the biggest aspect of a coach for me. But, all of these "positives" about Riley seem to be in comparison to the previous guy. When can we let it go with Bo (insert Frozen GIF) and just talk about Riley and his team's performance, and not have every thread be a comparison to Riley and Bo?

 

A lot of the criticism of Riley is veiled defense of Pelini, which we saw in full bloom following the first game with threads such as "I hope you're happy now."

 

There's no legitimate justification for the Riley hate after one, two or three games, and there's no explanation other than Pelini's fans are still butthurt. I wish they would take their carnival to Youngstown where I understand Pelini has gotten the old gang back together again.

 

But there's plenty of room for Riley doubt, regardless of how you felt about Pelini. I know a lot of guys that hated Pelini and couldn't wait for him to get fired, and who are also completely disgusted with the Riley hire. It's rarely accurate to generalize a group of people based on one single criteria.

 

Completely disgusted? After three games?

 

 

Gotcha.

 

No, way before three games. I'm talking about the minute the hire was announced.

[BigRedBuster]

Oh...they would be such fun fans to hang out with.

[Dagerow]

 

 

Look, I know we are only 3 games into the Mike Riley tenure, and that Riley is playing with a roster that was put together nearly 100% by Bo and the previous staff. But, at what point do we stop bringing up the negatives of Bo and his staff, just in the effort to defend Mike Riley and his staff?

 

I fully supported the firing of Bo. Although I didn't care as much about his sideline demeanor as most fans, Bo's win-loss record and performance in big games wasn't getting it done.

 

When Mike Riley was hired, I fully knew he who he was, and was aware of his performance at Oregon State. He had some good and bad years at OSU, in a very difficult situation. But, I could understand a lot of concerns with him from fans.

 

I came into this season with moderate expectations. I was very concerned about the overall talent and depth on the team. But, I thought that Riley and his staff could get the team to improve in the on-field performance. The first 3 games have produced extremely mixed results. Yes, the BYU game was lost on a fluke Hail Mary, but NU was also almost blown out in the first half and didn't finish the game in the 4th. The Miami game was also very alarming. I think Miami has more speed and talent than NU, but that doesn't excuse the poor start, lack of execution, and overall lifelessness shown for most of the game. A 1-2 record is still a 1-2 record. Yes, BYU and Miami are good teams, but it's not like NU was starting out with 2 teams ranked in the top ten.

 

I state the above because it seems like whenever someone brings up negative items regarding the Riley and the new staff, it seems like someone has to follow-up with a negative point or comparison to Bo. Yes, I guess it's good to see a calm demeanor on the sidelines, but it doesn't do much good if the coach doesn't win. Yes, it's a positive is a good representative of the University, handles the media well, and is universally well-liked. But, frankly, those are minor aspects of a coach for me, and winning is the biggest aspect of a coach for me. But, all of these "positives" about Riley seem to be in comparison to the previous guy. When can we let it go with Bo (insert Frozen GIF) and just talk about Riley and his team's performance, and not have every thread be a comparison to Riley and Bo?

A lot of the criticism of Riley is veiled defense of Pelini, which we saw in full bloom following the first game with threads such as "I hope you're happy now."

 

There's no legitimate justification for the Riley hate after one, two or three games, and there's no explanation other than Pelini's fans are still butthurt. I wish they would take their carnival to Youngstown where I understand Pelini has gotten the old gang back together again.

No legitimate justification to criticize? 1-2.

[Kernal]

 

 

Look, I know we are only 3 games into the Mike Riley tenure, and that Riley is playing with a roster that was put together nearly 100% by Bo and the previous staff. But, at what point do we stop bringing up the negatives of Bo and his staff, just in the effort to defend Mike Riley and his staff?

 

I fully supported the firing of Bo. Although I didn't care as much about his sideline demeanor as most fans, Bo's win-loss record and performance in big games wasn't getting it done.

 

When Mike Riley was hired, I fully knew he who he was, and was aware of his performance at Oregon State. He had some good and bad years at OSU, in a very difficult situation. But, I could understand a lot of concerns with him from fans.

 

I came into this season with moderate expectations. I was very concerned about the overall talent and depth on the team. But, I thought that Riley and his staff could get the team to improve in the on-field performance. The first 3 games have produced extremely mixed results. Yes, the BYU game was lost on a fluke Hail Mary, but NU was also almost blown out in the first half and didn't finish the game in the 4th. The Miami game was also very alarming. I think Miami has more speed and talent than NU, but that doesn't excuse the poor start, lack of execution, and overall lifelessness shown for most of the game. A 1-2 record is still a 1-2 record. Yes, BYU and Miami are good teams, but it's not like NU was starting out with 2 teams ranked in the top ten.

 

I state the above because it seems like whenever someone brings up negative items regarding the Riley and the new staff, it seems like someone has to follow-up with a negative point or comparison to Bo. Yes, I guess it's good to see a calm demeanor on the sidelines, but it doesn't do much good if the coach doesn't win. Yes, it's a positive is a good representative of the University, handles the media well, and is universally well-liked. But, frankly, those are minor aspects of a coach for me, and winning is the biggest aspect of a coach for me. But, all of these "positives" about Riley seem to be in comparison to the previous guy. When can we let it go with Bo (insert Frozen GIF) and just talk about Riley and his team's performance, and not have every thread be a comparison to Riley and Bo?

A lot of the criticism of Riley is veiled defense of Pelini, which we saw in full bloom following the first game with threads such as "I hope you're happy now."

 

There's no legitimate justification for the Riley hate after one, two or three games, and there's no explanation other than Pelini's fans are still butthurt. I wish they would take their carnival to Youngstown where I understand Pelini has gotten the old gang back together again.

No legitimate justification to criticize? 1-2.

 

 

Sure, you can criticize. I'm not happy with much of the defense so far. But to make sweeping generalizations and indicate disgust with the hire of Mike Riley after a couple games? That kind of criticism is contrived and disingenuous. It's so beyond stupid it's not even worth arguing.

[Hunter94]

 

 

 

Look, I know we are only 3 games into the Mike Riley tenure, and that Riley is playing with a roster that was put together nearly 100% by Bo and the previous staff. But, at what point do we stop bringing up the negatives of Bo and his staff, just in the effort to defend Mike Riley and his staff?

 

I fully supported the firing of Bo. Although I didn't care as much about his sideline demeanor as most fans, Bo's win-loss record and performance in big games wasn't getting it done.

 

When Mike Riley was hired, I fully knew he who he was, and was aware of his performance at Oregon State. He had some good and bad years at OSU, in a very difficult situation. But, I could understand a lot of concerns with him from fans.

 

I came into this season with moderate expectations. I was very concerned about the overall talent and depth on the team. But, I thought that Riley and his staff could get the team to improve in the on-field performance. The first 3 games have produced extremely mixed results. Yes, the BYU game was lost on a fluke Hail Mary, but NU was also almost blown out in the first half and didn't finish the game in the 4th. The Miami game was also very alarming. I think Miami has more speed and talent than NU, but that doesn't excuse the poor start, lack of execution, and overall lifelessness shown for most of the game. A 1-2 record is still a 1-2 record. Yes, BYU and Miami are good teams, but it's not like NU was starting out with 2 teams ranked in the top ten.

 

I state the above because it seems like whenever someone brings up negative items regarding the Riley and the new staff, it seems like someone has to follow-up with a negative point or comparison to Bo. Yes, I guess it's good to see a calm demeanor on the sidelines, but it doesn't do much good if the coach doesn't win. Yes, it's a positive is a good representative of the University, handles the media well, and is universally well-liked. But, frankly, those are minor aspects of a coach for me, and winning is the biggest aspect of a coach for me. But, all of these "positives" about Riley seem to be in comparison to the previous guy. When can we let it go with Bo (insert Frozen GIF) and just talk about Riley and his team's performance, and not have every thread be a comparison to Riley and Bo?

A lot of the criticism of Riley is veiled defense of Pelini, which we saw in full bloom following the first game with threads such as "I hope you're happy now."

 

There's no legitimate justification for the Riley hate after one, two or three games, and there's no explanation other than Pelini's fans are still butthurt. I wish they would take their carnival to Youngstown where I understand Pelini has gotten the old gang back together again.

No legitimate justification to criticize? 1-2.

 

 

Sure, you can criticize. I'm not happy with much of the defense so far. But to make sweeping generalizations and indicate disgust with the hire of Mike Riley after a couple games? That kind of criticism is contrived and disingenuous. It's so beyond stupid it's not even worth arguing.

 

agree

[Dagerow]

 

 

 

 

Look, I know we are only 3 games into the Mike Riley tenure, and that Riley is playing with a roster that was put together nearly 100% by Bo and the previous staff. But, at what point do we stop bringing up the negatives of Bo and his staff, just in the effort to defend Mike Riley and his staff?

 

I fully supported the firing of Bo. Although I didn't care as much about his sideline demeanor as most fans, Bo's win-loss record and performance in big games wasn't getting it done.

 

When Mike Riley was hired, I fully knew he who he was, and was aware of his performance at Oregon State. He had some good and bad years at OSU, in a very difficult situation. But, I could understand a lot of concerns with him from fans.

 

I came into this season with moderate expectations. I was very concerned about the overall talent and depth on the team. But, I thought that Riley and his staff could get the team to improve in the on-field performance. The first 3 games have produced extremely mixed results. Yes, the BYU game was lost on a fluke Hail Mary, but NU was also almost blown out in the first half and didn't finish the game in the 4th. The Miami game was also very alarming. I think Miami has more speed and talent than NU, but that doesn't excuse the poor start, lack of execution, and overall lifelessness shown for most of the game. A 1-2 record is still a 1-2 record. Yes, BYU and Miami are good teams, but it's not like NU was starting out with 2 teams ranked in the top ten.

 

I state the above because it seems like whenever someone brings up negative items regarding the Riley and the new staff, it seems like someone has to follow-up with a negative point or comparison to Bo. Yes, I guess it's good to see a calm demeanor on the sidelines, but it doesn't do much good if the coach doesn't win. Yes, it's a positive is a good representative of the University, handles the media well, and is universally well-liked. But, frankly, those are minor aspects of a coach for me, and winning is the biggest aspect of a coach for me. But, all of these "positives" about Riley seem to be in comparison to the previous guy. When can we let it go with Bo (insert Frozen GIF) and just talk about Riley and his team's performance, and not have every thread be a comparison to Riley and Bo?

A lot of the criticism of Riley is veiled defense of Pelini, which we saw in full bloom following the first game with threads such as "I hope you're happy now."

 

There's no legitimate justification for the Riley hate after one, two or three games, and there's no explanation other than Pelini's fans are still butthurt. I wish they would take their carnival to Youngstown where I understand Pelini has gotten the old gang back together again.

No legitimate justification to criticize? 1-2.

Sure, you can criticize. I'm not happy with much of the defense so far. But to make sweeping generalizations and indicate disgust with the hire of Mike Riley after a couple games? That kind of criticism is contrived and disingenuous. It's so beyond stupid it's not even worth arguing.

While I don't have enough information to properly access Riley, I don't have a problem with others judging him on the job he has done (even if I disagree with them). They are entitle to their opinions, just as you are (and if you want to highlight how thier belief is contrived, disingenuous, or beyond stupid, you can engage them -- it's your prerogative).