So you want to get rid of Riley

[MichiganDad3]

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

 

 

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

 

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

 

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

[Joe_5700]

Anyone that says Mike Riley was not a winner or had a losing record, blah blah blah, doesn't know what in the eff they're talking about. Why don't you go ask Gary Andersen how easy it is to win at Oregon State.

...or we can ask Mike Riley how easy it is to win at Nebraska?

[Hunter94]

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

 

 

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

 

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

 

i think after his record at Oregon St. his attraction fell off, if he is such a great recruiter, he should have had some real success at OS......i doubt he will ever get 9 wins here.

[NUinID]

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

 

 

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

 

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

 

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

 

 

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

[MichiganDad3]

or any of the coaches that never had a winning record for 28 straight years before he got there

This statement is not true if it is regarding Riley at OSU. Riley started at OSU in 1997 and went 3-8. In 1998 he went 5-6. In comes Erickson who went 7-5, 11-1, 5-6 and 8-5. Erickson won the PAC and the Fiesta bowl finishing 5th in the coaches poll. Riley came back, and proceeded to go 8-5, 7-5, 5-6,etc. for a 93-80 record at OSU. What makes an AD say "I've got to hire that fireball!"

[NoLongerN]

Guess it doesn't matter whether I want to get rid of Riley. For better or worse, Riley is in Lincoln and won't be going anywhere for a good while. The question is whether we'll be basement-dwellers in the Big Flippin Ten while he's here. omg, I'm gonna throw up.

 

Question -

 

For all the angst and people wanting a new coach, there sure are a lot of people absolutely offended at that attitude; what gives? Why is it so upsetting that some of your fellow fans want a different guy on our sideline?

 

I gave Coach Bo seven years of my support. I rooted for him, pulled for him ... and I stood up for him when he was being as ass on the sideline and when he talked bad about the fans and the university ... I hoped the best for him and the situation.

 

I think our new coach (whom didn't even graze my Top 20 list) deserves support ... especially after these past six games. He's on my team. I'm not going to shoot him. He is not my enemy. From what I've seen in his press conferences and all his interviews he has the character of a man whom embodies Husker football. I'll let everyone figure out who that is. I'm gonna choose to believe the best in this man and in this team. I'm going to trust that folks in the football world, both pro and college, who think highly of this coach ... just might know a bit more about how to run a football program and make changes to improve her performance.

 

Coach Riley just might fail. He might even fail this year. I trust that at the end of the season there is gonna be a few posts and threads where I and others can chime in on changes that we think need to be made. Personally, I think it's insane to call for Riley's head. Who would we get in his place for this season? What sort of O and D would we run? What kind of torture would that put these kids though who already had Coach Bo twisting their minds against the fans and university? I really don't get the maturity of these kinds of actions. I think a few too many of these "greatest fans" have won a fantasy football league and now somehow think they can put together some amazing program that would be 6-0. I've got some news for you "wannabees" ... well, you aren't a "Jim Harbaugh" or a "Jim McElwain". I might suggest that you think too highly of yourself.

 

These thoughts come from a fan who has his own frustrations with the season ... like not being committed to the run, undisciplined football that leads to turnovers and penalties (Bo was terrible with penalties and this coach is no different). Other posts have stated our problems far better then I will care to address in this post ... but for the love of everything behind GO BIG Red and the I will my favorite team far above my own thoughts or own personal wishes because this is HOW I CAN CONTRIBUTE AND SUPPORT MY TEAM.

 

I have not shared my view to hurt, harm or throw stones at any of my fellow Husker fans. I will continue to lock arms with each of you make Huskerboard a friendly football place. I respect the heck out of many of you and find myself at home with our moderators. Sometimes I wish more new posters would take a chill pill and take some time to read and decide when you feel you have something to say or contribute. You don't have to get in 4000 posts in your first year. You don't have to start a thread to contribute. Just love the ... be a fan ... and think about the impact of your words ... both for the good ... or the bad.

[MichiganDad3]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

 

 

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

 

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

 

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

 

 

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

 

That is my point. Most of us didn't want an out of the box hire. Getting rid of Bo brought us Christmas morning. We were anxiously unwrapping our big present hoping it was a top tier, proven winner. Knowing this was unlikely, we were hoping for the next best option; a proven mid-major winner, or an up and comer with a history of ferocious defenses or powerful running games. Instead, we open the big present, and it was a box of socks and underwear (an out-of-the box hire). So we all sigh, and go onto the smaller boxes - the assistant coaches. Now we are certain we can lure great assistants here, and at least one expressed interested in the DC job. But when we open the smaller boxes we get pajamas, shirts, pants, and a couple lumps of coal. We were completely stoned this Christmas.

[MichiganDad3]

 

Guess it doesn't matter whether I want to get rid of Riley. For better or worse, Riley is in Lincoln and won't be going anywhere for a good while. The question is whether we'll be basement-dwellers in the Big Flippin Ten while he's here. omg, I'm gonna throw up.

 

Question -

 

For all the angst and people wanting a new coach, there sure are a lot of people absolutely offended at that attitude; what gives? Why is it so upsetting that some of your fellow fans want a different guy on our sideline?

 

I gave Coach Bo seven years of my support. I rooted for him, pulled for him ... and I stood up for him when he was being as ass on the sideline and when he talked bad about the fans and the university ... I hoped the best for him and the situation.

 

I think our new coach (whom didn't even graze my Top 20 list) deserves support ... especially after these past six games. He's on my team. I'm not going to shoot him. He is not my enemy. From what I've seen in his press conferences and all his interviews he has the character of a man whom embodies Husker football. I'll let everyone figure out who that is. I'm gonna choose to believe the best in this man and in this team. I'm going to trust that folks in the football world, both pro and college, who think highly of this coach ... just might know a bit more about how to run a football program and make changes to improve her performance.

 

Coach Riley just might fail. He might even fail this year. I trust that at the end of the season there is gonna be a few posts and threads where I and others can chime in on changes that we think need to be made. Personally, I think it's insane to call for Riley's head. Who would we get in his place for this season? What sort of O and D would we run? What kind of torture would that put these kids though who already had Coach Bo twisting their minds against the fans and university? I really don't get the maturity of these kinds of actions. I think a few too many of these "greatest fans" have won a fantasy football league and now somehow think they can put together some amazing program that would be 6-0. I've got some news for you "wannabees" ... well, you aren't a "Jim Harbaugh" or a "Jim McElwain". I might suggest that you think too highly of yourself.

 

These thoughts come from a fan who has his own frustrations with the season ... like not being committed to the run, undisciplined football that leads to turnovers and penalties (Bo was terrible with penalties and this coach is no different). Other posts have stated our problems far better then I will care to address in this post ... but for the love of everything behind GO BIG Red and the I will my favorite team far above my own thoughts or own personal wishes because this is HOW I CAN CONTRIBUTE AND SUPPORT MY TEAM.

 

I have not shared my view to hurt, harm or throw stones at any of my fellow Husker fans. I will continue to lock arms with each of you make Huskerboard a friendly football place. I respect the heck out of many of you and find myself at home with our moderators. Sometimes I wish more new posters would take a chill pill and take some time to read and decide when you feel you have something to say or contribute. You don't have to get in 4000 posts in your first year. You don't have to start a thread to contribute. Just love the ... be a fan ... and think about the impact of your words ... both for the good ... or the bad.

 

I don't think any of us are capable of coaching a Power 5 team. There is a reason these men are paid several million dollars per year. The point is we just gave a substantial raise to a coach we did not believe was capable of bring Nebraska back to national prominence, and the first six games he has underachieved those weak expectations.

[NUance]

 

Anyone that says Mike Riley was not a winner or had a losing record, blah blah blah, doesn't know what in the eff they're talking about. Why don't you go ask Gary Andersen how easy it is to win at Oregon State.

I asked Dennis Erickson. In four years he was 31-17, won the PAC once, won a BCS bowl, and ranked 5th in the coaches poll (4th in the AP). Despite coaching 14 years at OSU, Riley never approached a conference title, a meaningful bowl, and was only ranked four times, with the peak being 18th. That is one sorry excuse for a coaching resume if you are applying for a job at a traditional powerhouse program.

 

 

That one huge year at Oregon State wasn't his best year in coaching. He won the MNC at Miami. But after Erickson got fired Miami was a basement dweller for a half decade or so due to the pile of ncaa sanctions that Dennis Erickson amassed. Is that the kind of thing we want here at Nebraska?

[MichiganDad3]

 

 

Anyone that says Mike Riley was not a winner or had a losing record, blah blah blah, doesn't know what in the eff they're talking about. Why don't you go ask Gary Andersen how easy it is to win at Oregon State.

I asked Dennis Erickson. In four years he was 31-17, won the PAC once, won a BCS bowl, and ranked 5th in the coaches poll (4th in the AP). Despite coaching 14 years at OSU, Riley never approached a conference title, a meaningful bowl, and was only ranked four times, with the peak being 18th. That is one sorry excuse for a coaching resume if you are applying for a job at a traditional powerhouse program.

 

 

That one huge year at Oregon State wasn't his best year in coaching. He won the MNC at Miami. But after Erickson got fired Miami was a basement dweller for a half decade or so due to the pile of ncaa sanctions that Dennis Erickson amassed. Is that the kind of thing we want here at Nebraska?

 

I am not advocating for Erickson, I am just refuting the incorrect statements that OSU had a losing record for 28 years until MR saved them. DE produced the 1st winning season there in many years, not MR. When MR took over, OSU's record took a downward trend, and they were back to a losing record by MR's 3rd year.

[Hunter94]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

 

 

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

 

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

 

 

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

 

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

 

 

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

 

That is my point. Most of us didn't want an out of the box hire. Getting rid of Bo brought us Christmas morning. We were anxiously unwrapping our big present hoping it was a top tier, proven winner. Knowing this was unlikely, we were hoping for the next best option; a proven mid-major winner, or an up and comer with a history of ferocious defenses or powerful running games. Instead, we open the big present, and it was a box of socks and underwear (an out-of-the box hire). So we all sigh, and go onto the smaller boxes - the assistant coaches. Now we are certain we can lure great assistants here, and at least one expressed interested in the DC job. But when we open the smaller boxes we get pajamas, shirts, pants, and a couple lumps of coal. We were completely stoned this Christmas.

 

i would quite agree, a program like ours sure deserved a high quality coach with some real credentials to go along with him......that pretty new girl you were dreaming about, well you got the chubby little bitch next door, who picks her damn nose at dinner!

[NUinID]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

That is my point. Most of us didn't want an out of the box hire. Getting rid of Bo brought us Christmas morning. We were anxiously unwrapping our big present hoping it was a top tier, proven winner. Knowing this was unlikely, we were hoping for the next best option; a proven mid-major winner, or an up and comer with a history of ferocious defenses or powerful running games. Instead, we open the big present, and it was a box of socks and underwear (an out-of-the box hire). So we all sigh, and go onto the smaller boxes - the assistant coaches. Now we are certain we can lure great assistants here, and at least one expressed interested in the DC job. But when we open the smaller boxes we get pajamas, shirts, pants, and a couple lumps of coal. We were completely stoned this Christmas.

I get you didn't want him, but aside from Sabin, Meyer, and maybe a couple of other guys there are very few proven winners over time that are going to come to Nebraska. There are lots of mid-major guys that have failed terribly when they have got their chance at a big time program.

 

You could very well have loved the hire of X mid major coach and he still could be 2-6 right now

[MichiganDad3]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

That is my point. Most of us didn't want an out of the box hire. Getting rid of Bo brought us Christmas morning. We were anxiously unwrapping our big present hoping it was a top tier, proven winner. Knowing this was unlikely, we were hoping for the next best option; a proven mid-major winner, or an up and comer with a history of ferocious defenses or powerful running games. Instead, we open the big present, and it was a box of socks and underwear (an out-of-the box hire). So we all sigh, and go onto the smaller boxes - the assistant coaches. Now we are certain we can lure great assistants here, and at least one expressed interested in the DC job. But when we open the smaller boxes we get pajamas, shirts, pants, and a couple lumps of coal. We were completely stoned this Christmas.

I get you didn't want him, but aside from Sabin, Meyer, and maybe a couple of other guys there are very few proven winners over time that are going to come to Nebraska. There are lots of mid-major guys that have failed terribly when they have got their chance at a big time program.

 

You could very well have loved the hire of X mid major coach and he still could be 2-6 right now

 

You are absolutely correct, but I think the odds are better with a mid-major winner. I liked the Bo hire because we hired a DC that won a MNC. He didn't do terrible, but the occasional beatdowns coupled with a bad attitude cost him his job. I just wanted the AD to take a good swing instead of laying down a sacrifice bunt.

[NUance]

 

 

 

Anyone that says Mike Riley was not a winner or had a losing record, blah blah blah, doesn't know what in the eff they're talking about. Why don't you go ask Gary Andersen how easy it is to win at Oregon State.

I asked Dennis Erickson. In four years he was 31-17, won the PAC once, won a BCS bowl, and ranked 5th in the coaches poll (4th in the AP). Despite coaching 14 years at OSU, Riley never approached a conference title, a meaningful bowl, and was only ranked four times, with the peak being 18th. That is one sorry excuse for a coaching resume if you are applying for a job at a traditional powerhouse program.

 

 

That one huge year at Oregon State wasn't his best year in coaching. He won the MNC at Miami. But after Erickson got fired Miami was a basement dweller for a half decade or so due to the pile of ncaa sanctions that Dennis Erickson amassed. Is that the kind of thing we want here at Nebraska?

 

I am not advocating for Erickson, I am just refuting the incorrect statements that OSU had a losing record for 28 years until MR saved them. DE produced the 1st winning season there in many years, not MR. When MR took over, OSU's record took a downward trend, and they were back to a losing record by MR's 3rd year.

 

 

I think it's fair to say that *both* Riley and Erickson fared considerably better than any other OSU coach in the preceding, well, forever. Before Erickson and Riley you have to go all the way back to 1962 for a nine-win season. Erickson and Riley had five nine-win seasons between them. Erickson had one and Riley had four. (But Riley was there three times longer.) Dennis Erickson had the best year ever for the Beavers, going 11-1 in 2000. The other three years Erickson was at OSU were just so so, going 20-16. Riley won nine games during four different years out of his fourteen seasons at OSU. Riley's win % was lower than Erickson. Riley won 52% over 14 years. Erickson won 62.5% over four years. To be fair though the program was much worse when Riley took over than when Erickson took over. The two years before Riley, OSU won a total of three games. In the two year prior to Erickson taking over, OSU won eight games. LINK

 

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Can someone list me the sure-fire coaches out there?

 

And by that I mean sure-fire winners.

 

Because they certainly aren't sure-fire to leave their current job and come to Nebraska for any sum of money.

 

We'd be lucky to get David Shaw, but Palo Alto to Lincoln isn't a career trajectory any more. While we we sleeping, Stanford has earned a highly respected football program. Without over-paying for coaches.

 

Nearly impossible to find a coaching resume with W/L records that Husker fans won't fret over.

 

I can, IMO there are 2 sure fire coaches Sabin and Meyer, and neither of them is coming to Nebraska.

Again, my point.

 

Fans seem frustrated that UNL doesn't simply hire a coach guaranteed to return Nebraska to glory, presumably money being no object.

 

As if it's that simple.

The problem is we didn't even try. We hired a coach with a losing record, who never won anything in many years of coaching college football. When we hired Riley, every Nebraska fan had to google him. At least make an effort to get a proven winner. And if you do hire a mediocre coach, force him to hire top notch assistants. Very sad effort by our AD.

I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some of you to believe that SE had Mike Riley in mind when he fired Pelini. I didn't have to google him I was very aware of who he was. If he would have been hired in 2007 when he was actually a real hot commodity everyone would have known him. MR was an out of the box hire for sure and was not my first choice, but I didn't think he was a bad choice.

 

When I say Sabin and Meyer are sure fire coaches I don't mean they will come into Nebraska and win 11 games their first year. I mean those are really the only two that I think could probably guarantee top 10 recruiting classes just on their name alone. No one else is going to be able to do that.

I didn't see a single poster on this board mention Mike Riley. That means he wasn't even in the top five choices of many knowledgeable fans. I also think rebuilding a top program is stressful and time consuming; something that is better suited for a younger coach. This was one of my major complaints about sweater vest.

I just said he was an out of the box hire. I said he I knew who he was, I didn't say he was in my top 5 coaches to hire. I figured he was a lifer at OSU after being there so long. Again just because he was on your top 5 you scribbled on a cocktail napkin doesn't mean he wasn't at the top of SE board.

That is my point. Most of us didn't want an out of the box hire. Getting rid of Bo brought us Christmas morning. We were anxiously unwrapping our big present hoping it was a top tier, proven winner. Knowing this was unlikely, we were hoping for the next best option; a proven mid-major winner, or an up and comer with a history of ferocious defenses or powerful running games. Instead, we open the big present, and it was a box of socks and underwear (an out-of-the box hire). So we all sigh, and go onto the smaller boxes - the assistant coaches. Now we are certain we can lure great assistants here, and at least one expressed interested in the DC job. But when we open the smaller boxes we get pajamas, shirts, pants, and a couple lumps of coal. We were completely stoned this Christmas.

I get you didn't want him, but aside from Sabin, Meyer, and maybe a couple of other guys there are very few proven winners over time that are going to come to Nebraska. There are lots of mid-major guys that have failed terribly when they have got their chance at a big time program.

You could very well have loved the hire of X mid major coach and he still could be 2-6 right now

You are absolutely correct, but I think the odds are better with a mid-major winner. I liked the Bo hire because we hired a DC that won a MNC. He didn't do terrible, but the occasional beatdowns coupled with a bad attitude cost him his job. I just wanted the AD to take a good swing instead of laying down a sacrifice bunt.

Well that is your opinion, it was obviously not SE's. You want a sexy hire, let's say he went after a guy like Jerry Kill, say before he went to Minnesota, what would you have thought of that? Goofy looking guy got a 350 pound guy as his DC? Nothing too dynamic about. Think about the PC to announce him. What do you think of that. You would love to have Kill right now, but would you have liked the hire then?