Danny Bateman Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Anyone can plead the fifth, Bnil. It's as much a constitutional right as owning a gun. It doesn't imply guilt. Of course she's not going to quit. She's been convicted of ZERO CRIMES. And by just about every metric, she's kicking his ass. Campaign infrastructure? Check. Fundraising? Check. He's too cheap to cut himself checks, because it would involved liquidating his assets (which he doesn't want to do) and donors are tired of hearing how rich he is and then being asked to fork over dough. That's about as ham-fisted as he could possibly get. Polling? She just opened up a 14 point lead in the new Reuters/Ipsos out today: I'd be wary of drawing a parallel between Brexit and us electing Trump. It's the easy, natural thing to do, but I'm not convinced. Just because Trump is different from every candidate we've ever seen doesn't mean he's going to win. Link to comment
AR Husker Fan Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 And another... Republican ex-Treasury chief Paulson slams Trump, to vote for Clinton Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Worst kind of idiot is one that thinks he's actually smarter than everyone else. And he has the power to screw everything up. 2 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 He didn't even know what Brexit was 3 weeks ago. Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 If Brexit has taught us anything, it's that counter-factualism and anti-intellectualism have enormous appeal. It's a rather enormous failing, too, on the part of elites to not engage better with those who have now hopped on these tidal waves of staggeringly incompetent demagoguery. Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 And another... Republican ex-Treasury chief Paulson slams Trump, to vote for Clinton And another ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/ Every Republican has this choice. Punish their party -- at least temporarily -- for choosing to endorse Trump. Or make like party leaders and do all the contortions and mental gymnastics necessary to get around to supporting him. It's a very self-defining choice. Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 And another... Republican ex-Treasury chief Paulson slams Trump, to vote for Clinton And another ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/ Every Republican has this choice. Punish their party -- at least temporarily -- for choosing to endorse Trump. Or make like party leaders and do all the contortions and mental gymnastics necessary to get around to supporting him. It's a very self-defining choice. Pretty easy one to break apart actually. The people who support hidden establishment agendas, or socialism because they're lazy and entitled, won't support him, and people who desire to think big and put America's interests first will support him. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 If Brexit has taught us anything, it's that counter-factualism and anti-intellectualism have enormous appeal. It's a rather enormous failing, too, on the part of elites to not engage better with those who have now hopped on these tidal waves of staggeringly incompetent demagoguery. IMO it's the scariest thing going on right now and it started a long time before Trump. If people don't believe in the scientific process and scientists then what is the point of doing research at all? Why don't we just all go by our gut feeling and things we witness and ignore tendencies? One of the worst things Trump has said this whole campaign in my opinion is that there is no drought in California (the U.S. Drought Monitor is run by UNL, btw) and the government is sending all the water to the ocean. When someone his position says things like that they hold weight. There are a lot of people out there who trust the words of so-called leaders. People who don't understand how much damage he could do saying things like that as the president lack foresight. 3 Link to comment
zoogs Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yeah, it's eminently clear and more than a little bit galling that his many supporters are deep into imbibing all this counter/alt-programming. I suppose it's not all that new, but the enormous increases in democracy brought by technology have really blurred lines. The democratization of expertise, where it's not hard for a buffoon to literally say "We've had enough of experts" and for that sentiment to prevail. Obviously, more democracy isn't a bad thing, and experts are far from infallible. They figure to be somewhat less fallible than not experts, though. As a general rule Link to comment
Red Five Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 If Brexit has taught us anything, it's that counter-factualism and anti-intellectualism have enormous appeal. It's a rather enormous failing, too, on the part of elites to not engage better with those who have now hopped on these tidal waves of staggeringly incompetent demagoguery. IMO it's the scariest thing going on right now and it started a long time before Trump. If people don't believe in the scientific process and scientists then what is the point of doing research at all? Why don't we just all go by our gut feeling and things we witness and ignore tendencies? One of the worst things Trump has said this whole campaign in my opinion is that there is no drought in California (the U.S. Drought Monitor is run by UNL, btw) and the government is sending all the water to the ocean. When someone his position says things like that they hold weight. There are a lot of people out there who trust the words of so-called leaders. People who don't understand how much damage he could do saying things like that as the president lack foresight. Don't forget his vaccines cause autism stance... Link to comment
funhusker Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 And another... Republican ex-Treasury chief Paulson slams Trump, to vote for Clinton And another ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/ Every Republican has this choice. Punish their party -- at least temporarily -- for choosing to endorse Trump. Or make like party leaders and do all the contortions and mental gymnastics necessary to get around to supporting him. It's a very self-defining choice. Pretty easy one to break apart actually. The people who support hidden establishment agendas, or socialism because they're lazy and entitled, won't support him, and people who desire to think big and put America's interests first will support him. I don't care to look it up (maybe I have a little Trump support in me ) but didn't you claim somewhere earlier in this thread that a lot of Bernie supporters were going to jump on the Trump train after Hillary won the nomination? Link to comment
HuskerShark Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 And another... Republican ex-Treasury chief Paulson slams Trump, to vote for Clinton And another ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-will-donald-trump-leaving-republican-party-election/ Every Republican has this choice. Punish their party -- at least temporarily -- for choosing to endorse Trump. Or make like party leaders and do all the contortions and mental gymnastics necessary to get around to supporting him. It's a very self-defining choice. Pretty easy one to break apart actually. The people who support hidden establishment agendas, or socialism because they're lazy and entitled, won't support him, and people who desire to think big and put America's interests first will support him. I don't care to look it up (maybe I have a little Trump support in me ) but didn't you claim somewhere earlier in this thread that a lot of Bernie supporters were going to jump on the Trump train after Hillary won the nomination? Fair enough. Yes, but I'd guess only those who are backing anti establishment candidates or searching for something other than the same old message. Link to comment
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