Danny Bateman Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nah...just tired of the Hollywood elite...like they think their words carry any more weight than yours or mine. I guess I am not in the same mind frame that the Gov't is going to be rounding up legal, documented, immigrants and shipping them back to their originating country. Does that make me naive? To your first sentence..... well. They do. That's true of anyone with a platform. To the second sentence, that's not what anyone is implying or saying. There's a huge gap and window for oppression/discrimination available between equality and shipping away legal immigrants. *Footnote to the first part. That's doesn't mean their words shouldn't be evaluated and analyzed any more or less than another person's. Agreed. Last night when that news broke, I was seeing people saying "Rich celebrities should just stay out of politics!" I just wanted to go to bed after reading that. Had a hard time getting to bed, though. I was getting crushed under a massive pile of irony. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Celebrities are perfectly free...just like anyone....to speak out politically. The rest of the world is perfectly free to completely ignore them or tell them they are full of sh#t. 1 Link to comment
zoogs Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Nah...just tired of the Hollywood elite...like they think their words carry any more weight than yours or mine. I guess I am not in the same mind frame that the Gov't is going to be rounding up legal, documented, immigrants and shipping them back to their originating country. Does that make me naive? I would argue this is *exactly* missing the point: Her purpose was to dispel the idea that Hollywood was La La Land: a cloud of élites cut off from the real America that had elected Trump. Who are we, and what is Hollywood anyway? Its just a bunch of people from other places, she said, pointing out the divergent backgrounds of the nominees, from Amy Adams to Dev Patel. An actors only job, she continued, is to enter the lives of people who are different from us, and let you feel what that feels like. Empathy has been at the heart of Streeps world view, and of her craft. With that in mind, she pivoted to a performance that had unnerved her: Trumps mocking imitation of a disabled reporter during the campaign. I'd welcome anyone to try and defend a position that insists Trump will in fact run an empathetic administration devoted to carrying on America's lofty ideals and tradition of multiculturalism. Given that the man has made his political fortune out of casting and vilifying outsiders, I would guess that there won't be takers on this. (That such a notion could ever be confused for being "American"...) The more limited thesis presented -- "As long as the government isn't rounding up and deporting legal immigrants, such criticisms are unmerited" -- still deserves scrutiny. It's a stance that is tepid at best, if not hostile outright to affirming diversity. You're all welcome, too, to defend this as a reasonable position to stake out, and there we'd have to simply agree to disagree. Link to comment
GM_Tood Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Nah...just tired of the Hollywood elite...like they think their words carry any more weight than yours or mine. I guess I am not in the same mind frame that the Gov't is going to be rounding up legal, documented, immigrants and shipping them back to their originating country. Does that make me naive? I would argue this is *exactly* missing the point: Her purpose was to dispel the idea that Hollywood was La La Land: a cloud of élites cut off from the real America that had elected Trump. Who are we, and what is Hollywood anyway? Its just a bunch of people from other places, she said, pointing out the divergent backgrounds of the nominees, from Amy Adams to Dev Patel. An actors only job, she continued, is to enter the lives of people who are different from us, and let you feel what that feels like. Empathy has been at the heart of Streeps world view, and of her craft. With that in mind, she pivoted to a performance that had unnerved her: Trumps mocking imitation of a disabled reporter during the campaign. I'd welcome anyone to try and defend a position that insists Trump will in fact run an empathetic administration devoted to carrying on America's lofty ideals and tradition of multiculturalism. Given that the man has made his political fortune out of casting and vilifying outsiders, I would guess that there won't be takers on this. (That such a notion could ever be confused for being "American"...) The more limited thesis presented -- "As long as the government isn't rounding up and deporting legal immigrants, such criticisms are unmerited" -- still deserves scrutiny. It's a stance that is tepid at best, if not hostile outright to affirming diversity. You're all welcome, too, to defend this as a reasonable position to stake out, and there we'd have to simply agree to disagree. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 I honestly didn't know that my eyebrows could raise that far up on my forehead. Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I love Streep! I think she is amazing and am I the only one that thinks she has been acting for 100 years but looks like she is only 40? Link to comment
QMany Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I love Streep! So did Trump, until she called him out. Any actress you love? Julia Roberts is terrific, and many others. Meryl Streep is excellent; she's a fine person, too. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/donald-trump-murdoch-ailes-nbc-816131 3 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 That's FANTASTIC! He also said he liked SNL and would host again if asked (obviously timing is everything - wonder if he still feels that way?) Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Wait...you guys and gals are not saying that it is wrong to change your mind? At one time I thought Van Damm was one of the best actors ever. I thought Segal was AMAZING...I thought that Ratt and Dokken were pretty much the best bands ever...I thought that the grunge look was the best thing ever. People change their minds for lots of reasons... Other things I loved and don't anymore" Chris Rock Tupac Sightings Being "Carb free" Godfathers Pizza Taco Johns BigRedBoard.com Owning a house Cold weather The Office TV Show Pick Up Basketball Games Shaving my chest (kidding, I still love it) John Groce Bo Pelini Fire Pits Fireball Fake Fireball Working out Yahoo Mail The Simpsons (I still like it, I don't love it) I can't stop! Jean shorts White socks Those Sad Dog commercials Nickleback 50 Cent MTV VH1 2 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Did you ever tweet about any of these things profusely praising how fantastic they were? Did you only start disliking them when they didn't work out for you? Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Did you ever tweet about any of these things profusely praising how fantastic they were? Did you only start disliking them when they didn't work out for you? Of course! And I told my friends I loved certain things only to tell them I hated them later on for various different reasons. I have told my family that I loved things and then later changed my mind...we all have...all the time. sh#t, I swore up and down I would always wear a jean jacket with patches from metal bands on it! I swore up and down to all my friends that Bo was the best coach that NU could ever hire...now I can't stand the hire! I have emails after email with other friends and coaches how the 5-2 would be all I ever run on defense and how all the other D's sucked...only now to have totally abandoned it. And yes...once things start not working out for me, I hate them. I loved my new house...I bragged about what a great deal I got...Now I hate it and you can ask ColoradoHusker...I loathe it! Link to comment
zoogs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's certainly quite defining what one chooses to accept, or even to admire. Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's certainly quite defining what one chooses to accept, or even to admire. Agreed! Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 He doth protest too much. Why is he yelling? Link to comment
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