zoogs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So who represents this so-called white establishment? Is it Trump, McConnell and Ryan; or is it Clinton, Schumer and Pelosi? Is this a mystery? A quick glance at party platforms should reveal the answer. Supporting social programs that target the minorities who disproportionately are in need of them, or gut the same? Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So the party supporting black genocide through abortion and limiting minorities educational opportunities by opposing school choice isn't the one? Link to comment
knapplc Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Why is abortion "black genocide?" Where is the proof that "school choice" enhances minorities' educational opportunities and/or educational results? 2 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So the party supporting black genocide through abortion and limiting minorities educational opportunities by opposing school choice isn't the one? Wow. 1 Link to comment
Fru Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So who represents this so-called white establishment? Is it Trump, McConnell and Ryan; or is it Clinton, Schumer and Pelosi? You'd probably want to ask Bill O'Reilly, since it's his quote. But maybe this will help 2 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So who represents this so-called white establishment? Is it Trump, McConnell and Ryan; or is it Clinton, Schumer and Pelosi? You'd probably want to ask Bill O'Reilly, since it's his quote. But maybe this will help Wow, those rooms look as white as a Democratic Senatorial Leadership meeting. 1 Link to comment
Landlord Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well, here's a photo of democrat interns : Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well, here's a photo of democrat interns : With an all white leadership and this photo of the interns, kind of looks like the power structure of the pre-civil war south; you know, before the republicans freed the slaves. Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Echo knapp & NM from the previous page, but I do think there are some good points there. It's not as if either party is a perfect champion for minorities. The Democrats in fact, are not above criticism. As recently as the 90s they endorsed Nixonian-era attitudes towards crime. And I completely believe there's still a wing of the party that is quite indifferent, if not hostile, to race issues. Progressive movements in our nation's history tend to reach minorities last, if at all. Somewhat off topic but along the same lines, I read a recent interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates where he dryly made the observation that his book was now the one white people were reading to convince themselves they were allies. As far as deals go, you can make the case that it's a pretty raw choice, and that in all existing power structures white people are ensconced in an exclusive privilege. But one party is way, way, way worse in their aims than the other. Their insistence to the contrary is meant largely to placate people who are indifferent to these issues to begin with. Or, I suppose, to feed on the truly cynical. you know, before the republicans freed the slaves The two parties have essentially swapped names since that time. You know this, right? Link to comment
Fru Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well, here's a photo of democrat interns : With an all white leadership and this photo of the interns, kind of looks like the power structure of the pre-civil war south; you know, before the republicans freed the slaves. Again, the "White Establishment" phrase came from conservative carnival barker Bill O'Reilly. Not Rachel Maddow or Bill Maher. And it is beyond disgusting for you to compare democratic interns to the horrors of slavery. Your party's standard bearer has the full ringing endorsement of the KKK. You are not the party of Lincoln. And as Zoogs pointed out, political parties have switched names. This article sums it up pretty well. http://us-presidents.insidegov.com/stories/3613/republicans-democrats-switch-platform Link to comment
Landlord Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well, here's a photo of democrat interns : With an all white leadership and this photo of the interns, kind of looks like the power structure of the pre-civil war south; you know, before the republicans freed the slaves. The only thing modern-day Republicanism has in common with the party that freed the slaves is the name. Also, your viewpoint is pitiful and sad. 2 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Echo knapp & NM from the previous page, but I do think there are some good points there. It's not as if either party is a perfect champion for minorities. The Democrats in fact, are not above criticism. As recently as the 90s they endorsed Nixonian-era attitudes towards crime. And I completely believe there's still a wing of the party that is quite indifferent, if not hostile, to race issues. Progressive movements in our nation's history tend to reach minorities last, if at all. Somewhat off topic but along the same lines, I read a recent interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates where he dryly made the observation that his book was now the one white people were reading to convince themselves they were allies. As far as deals go, you can make the case that it's a pretty raw choice, and that in all existing power structures white people are ensconced in an exclusive privilege. But one party is way, way, way worse in their aims than the other. Their insistence to the contrary is meant largely to placate people who are indifferent to these issues to begin with. Or, I suppose, to feed on the truly cynical. you know, before the republicans freed the slaves The two parties have essentially swapped names since that time. You know this, right? I know. The original intent of my first post was to show how stupid Bill O'Reilly comments were (my attempt at humor obviously wasn't spectacular). From there, I was just trying to show that we should all be careful before throwing stones. 1 Link to comment
Dbqgolfer Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Well, here's a photo of democrat interns : With an all white leadership and this photo of the interns, kind of looks like the power structure of the pre-civil war south; you know, before the republicans freed the slaves. Again, the "White Establishment" phrase came from conservative carnival barker Bill O'Reilly. Not Rachel Maddow or Bill Maher. And it is beyond disgusting for you to compare democratic interns to the horrors of slavery. Your party's standard bearer has the full ringing endorsement of the KKK. You are not the party of Lincoln. And as Zoogs pointed out, political parties have switched names. This article sums it up pretty well. http://us-presidents.insidegov.com/stories/3613/republicans-democrats-switch-platform Bill O'Reilly is not a conservative and my original post was meant to make fun of his comment. Although I disagree with her on just about everything, I listen to Rachel Maddow more than I do Bill O'Reilly. Wasn't my intent to offend, but get tired of the whole, "liberals good", "conservatives racist"; and the Republican Party is not my party; I left it because they nominated Trump. Link to comment
zoogs Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 From there, I was just trying to show that we should all be careful before throwing stones. I think you're certainly right about this. I just wasn't a fan of the particular arguments you brought up in support of it. If I'm understanding it correctly, those aren't ones you hold especially firmly either? Link to comment
Landlord Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 From there, I was just trying to show that we should all be careful before throwing stones. I think you're certainly right about this. I just wasn't a fan of the particular arguments you brought up in support of it. If I'm understanding it correctly, those aren't ones you hold especially firmly either? Did a pretty good job lobbing up some very silly stones for someone trying to show that we should be careful doing so. Link to comment
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