Moiraine Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, zoogs said: The sad thing really is he's not trolling. It's hard to imagine that someone who says "mansplaining" (i.e. men assuming a woman is ignorant because she's a woman and then explaining something condescendingly) doesn't exist isn't trolling. It's like arguing water isn't wet. Thinking the word shouldn't exist is a different matter, and the one the non trolls were discussing. Link to comment
zoogs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Is it that hard to imagine? It's not for me. We see it everywhere, including this thread. The issue for them isn't that we've invented a word to describe the phenomenon, it's that the phenomenon either does not exist or is not relevant -- "because womansplaining" and oh my god, he actually said "because blacksplaining". Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, zoogs said: Is it that hard to imagine? It's not for me. We see it everywhere, including this thread. The issue for them isn't that we've invented a word to describe the phenomenon, it's that the phenomenon either does not exist or is not relevant -- "because womansplaining" and oh my god, he actually said "because blacksplaining". Holy hell, we're calling it a phenomenon now? Link to comment
zoogs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Don't make "it doesn't happen significantly" your hill to die on. Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just now, zoogs said: Don't make "it doesn't happen significantly" your hill to die on. It's insignificance is why I find it irrelevant. I won't deny that it happens. But I'll deny it's lack of significance all day (But not today, I'm busy). 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: Holy hell, we're calling it a phenomenon now? tfree first referred to it as a phenomenon, but I don't understand your reaction here. A phenomenon is just something that happens, sometimes something that can't be explained. Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just now, Moiraine said: tfree first referred to it as a phenomenon, but I don't understand your reaction here. A phenomenon is just something that happens, sometimes something that can't be explained. I don't know. Feel like it's too much word to describe mansplaining. Too grand of a word.... Also, has it not been explained numerous times in this thread? Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said: I don't know. Feel like it's too much word to describe mansplaining. Too grand of a word.... Also, has it not been explained numerous times in this thread? *shrug* zoogs didn't use it first. And that's exactly why I called tfree a troll. I mean, he even said "womansplaining is also a thing." I said "womansplaining" is a thing in the first post. Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Moiraine said: *shrug* zoogs didn't use it first. And that's exactly why I called tfree a troll. I mean, he even said "womansplaining is also a thing." I said "womansplaining" is a thing in the first post. I highly doubt he's read back that far. Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Given that we seem to be agreed that womansplaining is also a thing, it's weird we don't hear more about it. It's almost like men just deal with it, roll their eyes, and get on living their lives. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, tfree32 said: Given that we seem to be agreed that womansplaining is also a thing, it's weird we don't hear more about it. It's almost like men just deal with it, roll their eyes, and get on living their lives. Yea... men are far more reasonable than those crazy, emotional women. It's almost like men never use words that are exclusively used to disparage women or people acting like women. Or... It's almost like "mansplaining" and "womansplaining" don't happen in the same proportion. 2 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Yea... men are far more reasonable than those crazy, emotional women. It's almost like men never use words that are exclusively used to disparage women or people acting like women. Yet that's exactly what "mansplaining" is...a word used to exclusively disparage men or people acting like women insist men act. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, tfree32 said: Yet that's exactly what "mansplaining" is...a word used to exclusively disparage men or people acting like women insist men act. Wrong again. It's used for that sometimes. But it has nothing to do with what the word means. Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 6 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said: I don't know. Feel like it's too much word to describe mansplaining. Too grand of a word.... Also, has it not been explained numerous times in this thread? "Things that are felt and encountered", if that makes it better, even if they do not apply specifically to us, does not mean their existence should be minimized. It's quite vexing that it is. What do we even get out of diminishing it? Link to comment
B.B. Hemingway Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 hour ago, zoogs said: "Things that are felt and encountered", if that makes it better, even if they do not apply specifically to us, does not mean their existence should be minimized. It's quite vexing that it is. What do we even get out of diminishing it? Personally, I get nothing. Although, it does get old that most of society's problems are blamed on the white person, or the male (I'm both). There's no accountability from those that find themselves in poor situations. But the "accountability" discussion is for a different thread, because it certain doesn't apply here with this topic. Link to comment
Recommended Posts